Trump fine GoFundMe

[89th]

It will be awkward when the fundraising is over and they've only received less than 1% of the goal.

[Jolly]

Having bitterweed for breakfast? Like some sour milk to go with it?

[89th]

Just trying to predict the future a bit. Maybe it'll be more than 1%. Kind of sad those who are flushing their money away like that.

[George K]

LOL...

The counter-offensive.

[taiwan_girl]

@Doctor-Phibes 555

@copper There is also that famous story about the trader in Singapore who bankrupt the bank there.
https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/case-study/collapse-barings-bank

[89th]

Nothing like people donating to a so-called Billionaire to help him afford his legal costs.

[taiwan_girl]

@89th said in Trump fine GoFundMe:

Nothing like people donating to a so-called Billionaire to help him afford his legal costs.

I know. Per President Trump's estimate, the fine is probably only 3-5% of his wealth.

[Doctor Phibes]

@89th said in Trump fine GoFundMe:

Nothing like people donating to a so-called Billionaire to help him afford his legal costs.

The same people probably complain about their taxes being wasted.

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes

Or buy knock-off running shoes spray painted gold for a few thousand dollars.

[89th]

Oh man the GoFundMe is almost at $900k. Getting close to 00.25%, which of course doesn't even come close to paying much of the interest owed on the amount. Maybe the lady who started the page will just keep all the cash.

[Mik]

schadenfreude /shäd′n-froi″də/

noun

Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.
Malicious enjoyment derived from observing someone else's misfortune.
Delight in another person's misfortune.

[89th]

FAFO

verb?

[Mik]

Really? That's your assessment of the situation he's in here? Business that was concluded before he ever took office being used to punish him for having the temerity to stand for office?

[89th]

I believe the investigations were started a number of years ago and initiated by investigative journalists with Forbes, WaPo, NY Times, etc. Eventually this led to interest from the NY tax dept and the DA. And yes, if you spend years inflating your worth to make money (via lower interest rates) and then you decide to run for President, that puts your life and history in the spotlight. Aka... FAFO. Not to mention his behavior in 2020 after he lost... but the charges were already underway by then I believe.

[Mik]

Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.

[taiwan_girl]

@Mik said in Trump fine GoFundMe:

Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.

If there was a crime, and he was charged even if others do the same thing and dont get charged, is that an excuse?

What if people are drink driving? "Hey, I saw three other people leave the bar over the drunk limit. Why dont you let me go?

(I know I know, apples vs. oranges. But the defense that "everybody does it", it is not a very good defense.)

[Mik]

Have you been taking miss the point lessons from Ax?

[George K]

@taiwan_girl said in Trump fine GoFundMe:

What if people are drink driving? "Hey, I saw three other people leave the bar over the drunk limit. Why dont you let me go?

Officer: You know why I pulled you over?

Me: No.

Officer: You were doing 74 in a 55 zone.

Me: But everyone was going that fast.

Officer: Ever go fishing?

Me: Yes...

Officer: Ever catch all the fish?

As cute as that story is, it sort of misses the point, most of which is not legal but political.

1. Has anyone ever been prosecuted for this crime?
2. The DA ran on an agenda of targeting Trump - whom she claimed was guilty not only of being an (undefined) crook, but of being white.
3. As a matter of right/wrong, is it right that you have to go bankrupt to defend yourself in court? If the stakes were smaller, would it be the right thing to take someone's house if he can't pay the fine while he appeals the judgment?

[Jolly]

It's not that everybody does it, it's that AFAIK, nobody has ever been prosecuted just this way under this statute, and NOBODY has received a fine such as this.

Personally, I think it's unconstitutional.

I guess we'll find out.

[89th]

@Mik said in Trump fine GoFundMe:

Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.

If I ran for president you wouldn’t find much. Certainly not hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent profits. I doubt I’d find anything newsworthy on you either. Don’t attract the spotlight if you’ve done shady shit. If found, even if it was bill clinton in court today, I don’t have a problem with justice being served.