Trump fine GoFundMe
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
As an aside, that 15% tip that Go Fund Me automatically adds (you have to go in and manually change it) is obscene.
I believe the consensus opinion here is that tipping in general is an abomination and should be banned.
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@copper There is also that famous story about the trader in Singapore who bankrupt the bank there.
https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/case-study/collapse-barings-bank -
Nothing like people donating to a so-called Billionaire to help him afford his legal costs.
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@89th said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Nothing like people donating to a so-called Billionaire to help him afford his legal costs.
I know. Per President Trump's estimate, the fine is probably only 3-5% of his wealth.
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@89th said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Nothing like people donating to a so-called Billionaire to help him afford his legal costs.
The same people probably complain about their taxes being wasted.
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@89th said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Nothing like people donating to a so-called Billionaire to help him afford his legal costs.
The same people probably complain about their taxes being wasted.
Or buy knock-off running shoes spray painted gold for a few thousand dollars.
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I believe the investigations were started a number of years ago and initiated by investigative journalists with Forbes, WaPo, NY Times, etc. Eventually this led to interest from the NY tax dept and the DA. And yes, if you spend years inflating your worth to make money (via lower interest rates) and then you decide to run for President, that puts your life and history in the spotlight. Aka... FAFO. Not to mention his behavior in 2020 after he lost... but the charges were already underway by then I believe.
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Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.
"The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil
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@Mik said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.
If there was a crime, and he was charged even if others do the same thing and dont get charged, is that an excuse?
What if people are drink driving? "Hey, I saw three other people leave the bar over the drunk limit. Why dont you let me go?
(I know I know, apples vs. oranges. But the defense that "everybody does it", it is not a very good defense.)
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@Mik said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.
If there was a crime, and he was charged even if others do the same thing and dont get charged, is that an excuse?
What if people are drink driving? "Hey, I saw three other people leave the bar over the drunk limit. Why dont you let me go?
(I know I know, apples vs. oranges. But the defense that "everybody does it", it is not a very good defense.)
@taiwan_girl said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
What if people are drink driving? "Hey, I saw three other people leave the bar over the drunk limit. Why dont you let me go?
Officer: You know why I pulled you over?
Me: No.
Officer: You were doing 74 in a 55 zone.
Me: But everyone was going that fast.
Officer: Ever go fishing?
Me: Yes...
Officer: Ever catch all the fish?
As cute as that story is, it sort of misses the point, most of which is not legal but political.
- Has anyone ever been prosecuted for this crime?
- The DA ran on an agenda of targeting Trump - whom she claimed was guilty not only of being an (undefined) crook, but of being white.
- As a matter of right/wrong, is it right that you have to go bankrupt to defend yourself in court? If the stakes were smaller, would it be the right thing to take someone's house if he can't pay the fine while he appeals the judgment?
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It's not that everybody does it, it's that AFAIK, nobody has ever been prosecuted just this way under this statute, and NOBODY has received a fine such as this.
Personally, I think it's unconstitutional.
I guess we'll find out.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Mik said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.
If I ran for president you wouldn’t find much. Certainly not hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent profits. I doubt I’d find anything newsworthy on you either. Don’t attract the spotlight if you’ve done shady shit. If found, even if it was bill clinton in court today, I don’t have a problem with justice being served.
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@Mik said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.
If I ran for president you wouldn’t find much. Certainly not hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent profits. I doubt I’d find anything newsworthy on you either. Don’t attract the spotlight if you’ve done shady shit. If found, even if it was bill clinton in court today, I don’t have a problem with justice being served.
@89th said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
@Mik said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.
If I ran for president you wouldn’t find much. Certainly not hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent profits. I doubt I’d find anything newsworthy on you either. Don’t attract the spotlight if you’ve done shady shit. If found, even if it was bill clinton in court today, I don’t have a problem with justice being served.
I hope you enjoy the world you wish for.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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It's not that everybody does it, it's that AFAIK, nobody has ever been prosecuted just this way under this statute, and NOBODY has received a fine such as this.
Personally, I think it's unconstitutional.
I guess we'll find out.
@Jolly said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
It's not that everybody does it, it's that AFAIK, nobody has ever been prosecuted just this way under this statute, and NOBODY has received a fine such as this.
Personally, I think it's unconstitutional.
I guess we'll find out.
I’d imagine there have been countless of similar cases prosecuted for such type of fraud and ill gotten gains. Not sure where to search and find that info, though.
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@89th said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
@Mik said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.
If I ran for president you wouldn’t find much. Certainly not hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent profits. I doubt I’d find anything newsworthy on you either. Don’t attract the spotlight if you’ve done shady shit. If found, even if it was bill clinton in court today, I don’t have a problem with justice being served.
I hope you enjoy the world you wish for.
@Jolly said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
@89th said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
@Mik said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. What you just posted proves my point.
If I ran for president you wouldn’t find much. Certainly not hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent profits. I doubt I’d find anything newsworthy on you either. Don’t attract the spotlight if you’ve done shady shit. If found, even if it was bill clinton in court today, I don’t have a problem with justice being served.
I hope you enjoy the world you wish for.
What world is that? One where such a level of fraud is punished?
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@Jolly said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
It's not that everybody does it, it's that AFAIK, nobody has ever been prosecuted just this way under this statute, and NOBODY has received a fine such as this.
Personally, I think it's unconstitutional.
I guess we'll find out.
I’d imagine there have been countless of similar cases prosecuted for such type of fraud and ill gotten gains. Not sure where to search and find that info, though.
@89th said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
@Jolly said in Trump fine GoFundMe:
It's not that everybody does it, it's that AFAIK, nobody has ever been prosecuted just this way under this statute, and NOBODY has received a fine such as this.
Personally, I think it's unconstitutional.
I guess we'll find out.
I’d imagine there have been countless of similar cases prosecuted for such type of fraud and ill gotten gains. Not sure where to search and find that info, though.
Give me one, besides Trump.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
