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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    Okay go ahead, answer questions with questions.

    I’ll tell you. It probably won’t be Trump or Putin.

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    Jolly
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    @Renauda said in Navalny dead:

    Okay go ahead, answer questions with questions.

    I’ll tell you. It probably won’t be Trump or Putin.

    Socrates made a living with it.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #38

      @Jolly

      That’s fine. Next time just say you don’t have an answer or that your initial statement was spontaneous brain flatulence and excuse yourself.

      Elbows up!

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        Jolly
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        #39

        I just got back from church or I'd tell you to sod off, you angry curmudgeon.

        So, I'll just say "Have a nice day, asshole".

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • W Do not disturb
          W Do not disturb
          Wim
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          #40

          Who needs excuses? Just stick to the flatulence 😁

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            I just got back from church or I'd tell you to sod off, you angry curmudgeon.

            So, I'll just say "Have a nice day, asshole".

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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #41

            @Jolly said in Navalny dead:

            I just got back from church or I'd tell you to sod off, you angry curmudgeon.

            So, I'll just say "Have a nice day, asshole".

            Well now, that should teach you not to fart in church.

            Elbows up!

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              Renauda
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              #42

              Can’t vouch for the accuracy of this timeline information but it does not seem at all far fetched:

              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/18/timeline-alexei-navalnys-final-hours-a84137

              Elbows up!

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                #43

                https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/19/world/europe/navalny-letters-russia.html

                Letters from the final months of his life, obtained by The New York Times, showed Navalny, who had been imprisoned since January 2021, managed to stay on top of current events — including in the US.

                In a letter sent to a friend, photographer Evgeny Feldman, Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.

                If President Joe Biden has a health issue, "Trump will become president," Navalny continued, adding, "Doesn't this obvious thing concern the Democrats?"

                In another letter to Feldman dated December 3, Navalny again expressed concern over Trump and asked his friend, "Please name one current politician you admire."

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/19/world/europe/navalny-letters-russia.html

                  Letters from the final months of his life, obtained by The New York Times, showed Navalny, who had been imprisoned since January 2021, managed to stay on top of current events — including in the US.

                  In a letter sent to a friend, photographer Evgeny Feldman, Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.

                  If President Joe Biden has a health issue, "Trump will become president," Navalny continued, adding, "Doesn't this obvious thing concern the Democrats?"

                  In another letter to Feldman dated December 3, Navalny again expressed concern over Trump and asked his friend, "Please name one current politician you admire."

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                  @taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:

                  Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.

                  I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:

                    Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.

                    I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.

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                    @George-K said in Navalny dead:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:

                    Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.

                    I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.

                    I guess that tells you something! 555

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @George-K said in Navalny dead:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:

                      Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.

                      I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.

                      I guess that tells you something! 555

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                      George K
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                      #46

                      @taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:

                      @George-K said in Navalny dead:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:

                      Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.

                      I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.

                      I guess that tells you something! 555

                      When it comes to "scary," Putin >> Trump, no?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #47

                        https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/02/20/editorial-tucker-carlson-trump-putin-navalny/

                        Chicago Tribune editorial

                        ....what did Trump finally say Monday on his Truth Social account after a weekend of appalling silence? “The sudden death of Alexei Navalny has made me more and more aware of what is happening in our Country. It is a slow, steady progression, with CROOKED, Radical Left Politicians, Prosecutors, and Judges leading us down a path to destruction. Open Borders, Rigged Elections, and Grossly Unfair Courtroom Decisions are DESTROYING AMERICA. WE ARE A NATION IN DECLINE, A FAILING NATION! MAGA2024.”

                        The narcissism boggles our minds as much as the gibberish. But we remain most amazed by how such a statement does not result in Trump’s immediate repudiation by any and all decent Americans of all political stripes and persuade Republicans to stop the Trump-influenced stalling of military aid to Ukraine. The stance is especially galling after Trump seemingly invited Russia to invade those NATO members who Trump deemed had failed to pay their fair share of the alliance’s military spending. At least Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley called Trump “weak at the knees” when it came to condemning, or rather not condemning, the death of Navalny.

                        She was right, if overly benign.

                        Contrast Trump’s dangerous nonsense with what Alicia Kearns, the Conservative Party chair of Britain’s Foreign Affairs Select Committee had to say Monday in the House of Commons: “Alexei Navalny was murdered and it is important that we in this House call it out for what it was, because that is what he deserves.” The Foreign Office minister Leo Docherty replied: “She is right to use the word murder,” saying that the British government “sought to hold the state and the Russian leadership to account.”

                        and

                        “An unstable narcissist such as Trump cannot be considered a serious candidate for president,” the former Republican senator and Clinton-era defense secretary, William Cohen, told the British newspaper The Telegraph on Monday.

                        Precisely.

                        Biden has to step up, and Republican voters should deny Trump the nomination while they still can. And as for Carlson, the goofy, sideshow comedian in all of this?

                        We’d like to see him look Navalnaya in the eye and tell her how important it is that the world hears more about the Putin point of view.

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                        • W Do not disturb
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                          Wim
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                          Shut up or...
                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/jailed-kremlin-critic-urges-russians-not-to-give-up-after-navalny-death

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            Nice. Like it would really be Navalny's body if she agreed.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Renauda
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                              #50

                              Surprised they didn’t just cremate
                              the body and show her the ashes.

                              They are but one step removed from Stalin.

                              Elbows up!

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  https://www.npr.org/2024/02/24/1233716587/alexei-navalny-body-russia-opposition-leader

                                  The body of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been handed over to his mother, a top aide to Navalny said Saturday on his social media account.

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #53

                                    Navalny’s mother played it smart. She used a combination of existing laws regarding deceased persons and Orthodox Church traditions and practices to argue her case with the authorities. She was also not intimidated and went public. I suspect it was becoming too embarrassing for some at the top to manage.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Renauda
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                                      #54

                                      Regardless of whether it’s hearsay, the plot continues to thicken.

                                      “In early February, [President Vladimir] Putin was given an offer to swap the FSB killer Vadim Krasikov, who is serving a prison term for murder in Berlin, for two American citizens and Alexei Navalny,” Maria Pevchikh, who chairs Navalny’s Anti-Corruption Foundation, said in a video statement.

                                      Full story:
                                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/26/navalny-was-killed-ahead-of-planned-prisoner-swap-allies-say-a84248

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
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                                        #55

                                        I read yesterday that the Ukrainian intelligence chief says Navalny died of a blood clot.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          I read yesterday that the Ukrainian intelligence chief says Navalny died of a blood clot.

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                                          @Mik

                                          Have not seen that. Do you recall the source?

                                          Elbows up!

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