Navalny dead
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Anyway, getting back to American elections, how does everybody think the sun exploding would affect voter turnout?
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Anyway, getting back to American elections, how does everybody think the sun exploding would affect voter turnout?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Navalny dead:
Anyway, getting back to American elections, how does everybody think the sun exploding would affect voter turnout?
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@Renauda said in Navalny dead:
Just might happen now.
Might. If, after Russia invaded another country, the still have these assets, something tells me that it will not happen. It's only been 2 years...
@George-K said in Navalny dead:
@Renauda said in Navalny dead:
Just might happen now.
Might. If, after Russia invaded another country, the still have these assets, something tells me that it will not happen. It's only been 2 years...
There is growing political pressure from within the G7 to sell off the assets. The lawyers of course don’t like it, but it is very much on the table.
Two scenarios for consideration:
Putin decreed last week that all property of Russian citizens who oppose the special military operation in Ukraine will be expropriated without compensation. This affects not only Russians who live in Russia, but also those Russians living abroad but who still hold personal property in back Russia. Not uncommon among the diaspora in the West who bought properties for family members who remained in Russia. It is a warning to Russians regardless of where they are.
Likewise, with Navalny’s murder - yes, I deliberately wrote the word, murder - a warning to all Russians not to involve themselves in opposition politics. Putin will be re
electedonce again anointed and blessed as Tsar autocrat of all the real and imagined Russias in the coming weeks. The West had better prepare itself to witness a return to a Russia that is has more in common with its Stalinist past than the fairy tale autocracies under the Tsars. The question then arises, why should the West hold the frozen assets? After all, Russia has no intention to observe any rule of law or accepted norm expected of a civilized country.Secondly, in the event of armistice talks over Ukraine, the assets will be used as secured collateral for reparations to Ukraine. Russia cannot be allowed under any pretence to walk away with political concessions, 20% or more of Ukraine and leaving a smouldering rump of what used to be Ukraine without paying.
Sooner or later those seized assets must be liquidated. Now is as good a time as any. The seized assets are for most part stolen property anyway. Besides, Putin has already seized and liquidated any and all of the remaining Western investors’ assets in Russia and redistributed them to his cronies.
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Okay go ahead, answer questions with questions.
I’ll tell you. It probably won’t be Trump or Putin.
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I just got back from church or I'd tell you to sod off, you angry curmudgeon.
So, I'll just say "Have a nice day, asshole".
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I just got back from church or I'd tell you to sod off, you angry curmudgeon.
So, I'll just say "Have a nice day, asshole".
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Can’t vouch for the accuracy of this timeline information but it does not seem at all far fetched:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/18/timeline-alexei-navalnys-final-hours-a84137
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/19/world/europe/navalny-letters-russia.html
Letters from the final months of his life, obtained by The New York Times, showed Navalny, who had been imprisoned since January 2021, managed to stay on top of current events — including in the US.
In a letter sent to a friend, photographer Evgeny Feldman, Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.
If President Joe Biden has a health issue, "Trump will become president," Navalny continued, adding, "Doesn't this obvious thing concern the Democrats?"
In another letter to Feldman dated December 3, Navalny again expressed concern over Trump and asked his friend, "Please name one current politician you admire."
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/19/world/europe/navalny-letters-russia.html
Letters from the final months of his life, obtained by The New York Times, showed Navalny, who had been imprisoned since January 2021, managed to stay on top of current events — including in the US.
In a letter sent to a friend, photographer Evgeny Feldman, Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.
If President Joe Biden has a health issue, "Trump will become president," Navalny continued, adding, "Doesn't this obvious thing concern the Democrats?"
In another letter to Feldman dated December 3, Navalny again expressed concern over Trump and asked his friend, "Please name one current politician you admire."
@taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:
Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.
I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.
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@taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:
Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.
I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.
@George-K said in Navalny dead:
@taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:
Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.
I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.
I guess that tells you something! 555
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@George-K said in Navalny dead:
@taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:
Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.
I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.
I guess that tells you something! 555
@taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:
@George-K said in Navalny dead:
@taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:
Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.
I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.
I guess that tells you something! 555
When it comes to "scary," Putin >> Trump, no?
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/02/20/editorial-tucker-carlson-trump-putin-navalny/
Chicago Tribune editorial
....what did Trump finally say Monday on his Truth Social account after a weekend of appalling silence? “The sudden death of Alexei Navalny has made me more and more aware of what is happening in our Country. It is a slow, steady progression, with CROOKED, Radical Left Politicians, Prosecutors, and Judges leading us down a path to destruction. Open Borders, Rigged Elections, and Grossly Unfair Courtroom Decisions are DESTROYING AMERICA. WE ARE A NATION IN DECLINE, A FAILING NATION! MAGA2024.”
The narcissism boggles our minds as much as the gibberish. But we remain most amazed by how such a statement does not result in Trump’s immediate repudiation by any and all decent Americans of all political stripes and persuade Republicans to stop the Trump-influenced stalling of military aid to Ukraine. The stance is especially galling after Trump seemingly invited Russia to invade those NATO members who Trump deemed had failed to pay their fair share of the alliance’s military spending. At least Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley called Trump “weak at the knees” when it came to condemning, or rather not condemning, the death of Navalny.
She was right, if overly benign.
Contrast Trump’s dangerous nonsense with what Alicia Kearns, the Conservative Party chair of Britain’s Foreign Affairs Select Committee had to say Monday in the House of Commons: “Alexei Navalny was murdered and it is important that we in this House call it out for what it was, because that is what he deserves.” The Foreign Office minister Leo Docherty replied: “She is right to use the word murder,” saying that the British government “sought to hold the state and the Russian leadership to account.”
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“An unstable narcissist such as Trump cannot be considered a serious candidate for president,” the former Republican senator and Clinton-era defense secretary, William Cohen, told the British newspaper The Telegraph on Monday.
Precisely.
Biden has to step up, and Republican voters should deny Trump the nomination while they still can. And as for Carlson, the goofy, sideshow comedian in all of this?
We’d like to see him look Navalnaya in the eye and tell her how important it is that the world hears more about the Putin point of view.
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https://www.npr.org/2024/02/24/1233716587/alexei-navalny-body-russia-opposition-leader
The body of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been handed over to his mother, a top aide to Navalny said Saturday on his social media account.
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Navalny’s mother played it smart. She used a combination of existing laws regarding deceased persons and Orthodox Church traditions and practices to argue her case with the authorities. She was also not intimidated and went public. I suspect it was becoming too embarrassing for some at the top to manage.
