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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @George-K said in Navalny dead:

    @taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:

    Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.

    I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.

    I guess that tells you something! 555

    George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #46

    @taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:

    @George-K said in Navalny dead:

    @taiwan_girl said in Navalny dead:

    Navalny called former President Donald Trump's agenda for a second term "really scary," according to the Times.

    I wonder what he considers "scary." I mean, he died in a Russian gulag...in February.

    I guess that tells you something! 555

    When it comes to "scary," Putin >> Trump, no?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      taiwan_girl
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      #47

      https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/02/20/editorial-tucker-carlson-trump-putin-navalny/

      Chicago Tribune editorial

      ....what did Trump finally say Monday on his Truth Social account after a weekend of appalling silence? “The sudden death of Alexei Navalny has made me more and more aware of what is happening in our Country. It is a slow, steady progression, with CROOKED, Radical Left Politicians, Prosecutors, and Judges leading us down a path to destruction. Open Borders, Rigged Elections, and Grossly Unfair Courtroom Decisions are DESTROYING AMERICA. WE ARE A NATION IN DECLINE, A FAILING NATION! MAGA2024.”

      The narcissism boggles our minds as much as the gibberish. But we remain most amazed by how such a statement does not result in Trump’s immediate repudiation by any and all decent Americans of all political stripes and persuade Republicans to stop the Trump-influenced stalling of military aid to Ukraine. The stance is especially galling after Trump seemingly invited Russia to invade those NATO members who Trump deemed had failed to pay their fair share of the alliance’s military spending. At least Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley called Trump “weak at the knees” when it came to condemning, or rather not condemning, the death of Navalny.

      She was right, if overly benign.

      Contrast Trump’s dangerous nonsense with what Alicia Kearns, the Conservative Party chair of Britain’s Foreign Affairs Select Committee had to say Monday in the House of Commons: “Alexei Navalny was murdered and it is important that we in this House call it out for what it was, because that is what he deserves.” The Foreign Office minister Leo Docherty replied: “She is right to use the word murder,” saying that the British government “sought to hold the state and the Russian leadership to account.”

      and

      “An unstable narcissist such as Trump cannot be considered a serious candidate for president,” the former Republican senator and Clinton-era defense secretary, William Cohen, told the British newspaper The Telegraph on Monday.

      Precisely.

      Biden has to step up, and Republican voters should deny Trump the nomination while they still can. And as for Carlson, the goofy, sideshow comedian in all of this?

      We’d like to see him look Navalnaya in the eye and tell her how important it is that the world hears more about the Putin point of view.

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      • W Offline
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        Wim
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        Shut up or...
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/jailed-kremlin-critic-urges-russians-not-to-give-up-after-navalny-death

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #49

          Nice. Like it would really be Navalny's body if she agreed.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #50

            Surprised they didn’t just cremate
            the body and show her the ashes.

            They are but one step removed from Stalin.

            Elbows up!

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #51

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                taiwan_girl
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                #52

                https://www.npr.org/2024/02/24/1233716587/alexei-navalny-body-russia-opposition-leader

                The body of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been handed over to his mother, a top aide to Navalny said Saturday on his social media account.

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
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                  #53

                  Navalny’s mother played it smart. She used a combination of existing laws regarding deceased persons and Orthodox Church traditions and practices to argue her case with the authorities. She was also not intimidated and went public. I suspect it was becoming too embarrassing for some at the top to manage.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #54

                    Regardless of whether it’s hearsay, the plot continues to thicken.

                    “In early February, [President Vladimir] Putin was given an offer to swap the FSB killer Vadim Krasikov, who is serving a prison term for murder in Berlin, for two American citizens and Alexei Navalny,” Maria Pevchikh, who chairs Navalny’s Anti-Corruption Foundation, said in a video statement.

                    Full story:
                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/26/navalny-was-killed-ahead-of-planned-prisoner-swap-allies-say-a84248

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #55

                      I read yesterday that the Ukrainian intelligence chief says Navalny died of a blood clot.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        I read yesterday that the Ukrainian intelligence chief says Navalny died of a blood clot.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #56

                        @Mik

                        Have not seen that. Do you recall the source?

                        Elbows up!

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
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                          ESSA News. Not sure how credible they are.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-intelligence-chief-confirms-opposition-leader-alexei-navalny-s-natural-cause-of-death/ar-BB1iTpfv?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=0f6159ee21be4924a6698449c49d76d9&ei=48

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Renauda
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                            #58

                            Kyiv Post reports the same. Since the quoted source is the Head of Ukrainian Intelligence, I wouldn’t write it off although I don’t know how Ukraine benefits from making it public. The statement was also spoken in connection to another possible Ukrainian attack on the Kerch Bridge.

                            In any case Navalny’s body and mind had been subject to ongoing abuse throughout his incarceration these past few years. A blood clot may very well have been the result of his prison living conditions and at the hands of his gaolers. I also doubt the efficacy of the routine prison medical attention he may or may not have been afforded during that time. In the end saying it was natural causes is probably moot.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              I can get behind that. An over abundance of vitamin K could help that along.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Darth Putin
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                                Lock them up.

                                Lock them all up.

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                                  taiwan_girl
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                                  President Trump, when asked ifif he blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for the death of opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

                                  “I don’t know, but perhaps, I mean possibly, I could say probably. I don’t know,” Trump told Fox News host Howard Kurtz. “He’s a young man, so statistically he’d be alive for a long time. If you go by the insurance numbers, he’d be alive for another 40 years. So something happened that was unusual.”

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                                  • HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
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                                    It's reasonable to not know whether Putin had Navalny murdered.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      It's reasonable to not know whether Putin had Navalny murdered.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #63

                                      @Horace said in Navalny dead:

                                      It's reasonable to not know whether Putin had Navalny murdered.

                                      It’s reassuring to finally find something that Trump doesn’t know more about than anybody else

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #64

                                        Intel suggests that Putin may not have ordered Navalny’s murder:

                                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/27/us-intel-suggests-putin-may-not-have-ordered-navalny-death-in-prison-wsj-a84974

                                        In my mind whether or not Putin ordered him whacked is moot. Navalny died while in state custody. Putin owns that fact.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
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                                          Implausible deniability.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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