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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 17 Feb 2024, 01:25 last edited by jon-nyc
    #20

    How long until TuCa makes some comment about omelettes and breaking eggs.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • J jon-nyc
      17 Feb 2024, 01:25

      How long until TuCa makes some comment about omelettes and breaking eggs.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 17 Feb 2024, 01:50 last edited by Renauda
      #21

      @jon-nyc said in Navalny dead:

      How long until TuCa makes some comment about omelettes and breaking eggs.

      If he says “when you chop wood, chips fly” we will know for certain that he has been co-opted and is on the Kremlin payroll. Codename: Tucker Duranty

      Elbows up!

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      • W Wim
        16 Feb 2024, 22:21

        @George-K said in Navalny dead:

        I don't remember much about the documentary, but I never understood what Navalny decided to return to Russia.

        What did he think would happen, Putin would engage in a discussion?

        Staying abroad would have resulted in political insignificance.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 03:48 last edited by taiwan_girl
        #22

        @Wim said in Navalny dead:

        @George-K said in Navalny dead:

        I don't remember much about the documentary, but I never understood what Navalny decided to return to Russia.

        What did he think would happen, Putin would engage in a discussion?

        Staying abroad would have resulted in political insignificance.

        I agree. A white paper I saw said the same thing. He felt so strongly about it, that it would not be right to talk about the hard times that Russians were going through with him living in a safe location outside of the country. He felt that his words would have more meaning and be more powerful if he was inside Russia.

        I am not sure I would be strong enough to do that, but powerful that he did.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 03:53 last edited by
          #23

          Interesting that Nalvany dead is more effective than a live Joe Biden.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            18 Feb 2024, 03:53

            Interesting that Nalvany dead is more effective than a live Joe Biden.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 04:44 last edited by Renauda
            #24

            @Jolly

            Interesting that Nalvany dead is more effective than a live Joe Biden.

            How so? Or better, just how do you connect Navalny’s death with Biden’s effectiveness in office? I hope you don’t think his death is about America or its current dysfunctional political scene.

            But as an aside - yet at centre stage of American dysfunction- it has not gone unnoticed that Trump has yet to make any mention either by word or through his beloved social media regarding Navalny’s death. I would suggest the reticence to be just bit out of character for the attention craving big mouth. That, or Trump is waiting for the results of the Kremlin’s autopsy report so he can affirm that he has no reason not to believe what Mr. Putin tells the world about Navalny’s demise in state custody is true. Just like in Helsinki back in 2018 when Putin gave Trump the same verbal barrage and PsyOps treatment he gave that FuCa last week.

            Elbows up!

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              Jolly
              wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 05:33 last edited by
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              Who do you think will be remembered more positively in 20 years by their fellow citizens?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Renauda
                wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 15:25 last edited by Renauda
                #26

                Okay go ahead, answer questions with questions.

                I’ll tell you. It probably won’t be Trump or Putin.

                Elbows up!

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                  George K
                  wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 15:26 last edited by
                  #27

                  Waiting for that strongly-letter.

                  BTW: Look at the decline in Biden since that video was taken.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • R Renauda
                    16 Feb 2024, 23:11

                    @George-K

                    He'll be erased and forgotten within 20 2 years.

                    Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 15:29 last edited by Mik
                    #28

                    @Renauda said in Navalny dead:

                    @George-K

                    He'll be erased and forgotten within 20 2 years.

                    Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.

                    May that day be very, very soon. He deserves to die at the haNd of the people.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 15:31 last edited by Renauda
                      #29

                      @George-K

                      There are a lot in of frozen Russian assets throughout the West that could be seized and sold off for reparations to Ukraine.

                      Just might happen now.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • R Renauda
                        18 Feb 2024, 15:31

                        @George-K

                        There are a lot in of frozen Russian assets throughout the West that could be seized and sold off for reparations to Ukraine.

                        Just might happen now.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 15:34 last edited by
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                        @Renauda said in Navalny dead:

                        Just might happen now.

                        Might. If, after Russia invaded another country, the still have these assets, something tells me that it will not happen. It's only been 2 years...

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • M Mik
                          18 Feb 2024, 15:29

                          @Renauda said in Navalny dead:

                          @George-K

                          He'll be erased and forgotten within 20 2 years.

                          Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.

                          May that day be very, very soon. He deserves to die at the haNd of the people.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 15:37 last edited by
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                          @Mik

                          May that day be very, very soon. He deserves to die at the haNd of the people.

                          Not likely soon. Unlike past Russian autocrats and leaders, Putin makes sure Russians have easy access to food and that his fighting soldiers are comparatively well paid. So long as the people do not go hungry and his troops have cash, the national passivity will continue.

                          Elbows up!

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 15:38 last edited by
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                            One can hope.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • G George K
                              18 Feb 2024, 15:26

                              Waiting for that strongly-letter.

                              BTW: Look at the decline in Biden since that video was taken.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 15:48 last edited by
                              #33

                              @George-K said in Navalny dead:

                              BTW: Look at the decline in Biden since that video was taken.

                              My thought too. Wow.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 16:15 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                #34

                                Anyway, getting back to American elections, how does everybody think the sun exploding would affect voter turnout?

                                I was only joking

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  18 Feb 2024, 16:15

                                  Anyway, getting back to American elections, how does everybody think the sun exploding would affect voter turnout?

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                                  Sweet Meteor
                                  wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 16:29 last edited by
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Navalny dead:

                                  Anyway, getting back to American elections, how does everybody think the sun exploding would affect voter turnout?

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                                  • G George K
                                    18 Feb 2024, 15:34

                                    @Renauda said in Navalny dead:

                                    Just might happen now.

                                    Might. If, after Russia invaded another country, the still have these assets, something tells me that it will not happen. It's only been 2 years...

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 17:04 last edited by Renauda
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                                    @George-K said in Navalny dead:

                                    @Renauda said in Navalny dead:

                                    Just might happen now.

                                    Might. If, after Russia invaded another country, the still have these assets, something tells me that it will not happen. It's only been 2 years...

                                    There is growing political pressure from within the G7 to sell off the assets. The lawyers of course don’t like it, but it is very much on the table.

                                    Two scenarios for consideration:

                                    Putin decreed last week that all property of Russian citizens who oppose the special military operation in Ukraine will be expropriated without compensation. This affects not only Russians who live in Russia, but also those Russians living abroad but who still hold personal property in back Russia. Not uncommon among the diaspora in the West who bought properties for family members who remained in Russia. It is a warning to Russians regardless of where they are.

                                    Likewise, with Navalny’s murder - yes, I deliberately wrote the word, murder - a warning to all Russians not to involve themselves in opposition politics. Putin will be re elected once again anointed and blessed as Tsar autocrat of all the real and imagined Russias in the coming weeks. The West had better prepare itself to witness a return to a Russia that is has more in common with its Stalinist past than the fairy tale autocracies under the Tsars. The question then arises, why should the West hold the frozen assets? After all, Russia has no intention to observe any rule of law or accepted norm expected of a civilized country.

                                    Secondly, in the event of armistice talks over Ukraine, the assets will be used as secured collateral for reparations to Ukraine. Russia cannot be allowed under any pretence to walk away with political concessions, 20% or more of Ukraine and leaving a smouldering rump of what used to be Ukraine without paying.

                                    Sooner or later those seized assets must be liquidated. Now is as good a time as any. The seized assets are for most part stolen property anyway. Besides, Putin has already seized and liquidated any and all of the remaining Western investors’ assets in Russia and redistributed them to his cronies.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      18 Feb 2024, 15:25

                                      Okay go ahead, answer questions with questions.

                                      I’ll tell you. It probably won’t be Trump or Putin.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 17:44 last edited by
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                                      @Renauda said in Navalny dead:

                                      Okay go ahead, answer questions with questions.

                                      I’ll tell you. It probably won’t be Trump or Putin.

                                      Socrates made a living with it.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 17:52 last edited by Renauda
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                                        @Jolly

                                        That’s fine. Next time just say you don’t have an answer or that your initial statement was spontaneous brain flatulence and excuse yourself.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 18 Feb 2024, 17:56 last edited by
                                          #39

                                          I just got back from church or I'd tell you to sod off, you angry curmudgeon.

                                          So, I'll just say "Have a nice day, asshole".

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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