Navalny dead
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He'll be erased and forgotten within 20 2 years.
Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.
@Renauda said in Navalny dead:
Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.
Funny you should say that, my Russian friend of some renown just posted "Не забудем! Не простим!", which the translator tells me means "Lest we forget! We will not forgive!" on his Facebook page.
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@jon-nyc said in Navalny dead:
How long until TuCa makes some comment about omelettes and breaking eggs.
If he says “when you chop wood, chips fly” we will know for certain that he has been co-opted and is on the Kremlin payroll. Codename: Tucker Duranty
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@George-K said in Navalny dead:
I don't remember much about the documentary, but I never understood what Navalny decided to return to Russia.
What did he think would happen, Putin would engage in a discussion?
Staying abroad would have resulted in political insignificance.
@Wim said in Navalny dead:
@George-K said in Navalny dead:
I don't remember much about the documentary, but I never understood what Navalny decided to return to Russia.
What did he think would happen, Putin would engage in a discussion?
Staying abroad would have resulted in political insignificance.
I agree. A white paper I saw said the same thing. He felt so strongly about it, that it would not be right to talk about the hard times that Russians were going through with him living in a safe location outside of the country. He felt that his words would have more meaning and be more powerful if he was inside Russia.
I am not sure I would be strong enough to do that, but powerful that he did.
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Interesting that Nalvany dead is more effective than a live Joe Biden.
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Interesting that Nalvany dead is more effective than a live Joe Biden.
How so? Or better, just how do you connect Navalny’s death with Biden’s effectiveness in office? I hope you don’t think his death is about America or its current dysfunctional political scene.
But as an aside - yet at centre stage of American dysfunction- it has not gone unnoticed that Trump has yet to make any mention either by word or through his beloved social media regarding Navalny’s death. I would suggest the reticence to be just bit out of character for the attention craving big mouth. That, or Trump is waiting for the results of the Kremlin’s autopsy report so he can affirm that he has no reason not to believe what Mr. Putin tells the world about Navalny’s demise in state custody is true. Just like in Helsinki back in 2018 when Putin gave Trump the same verbal barrage and PsyOps treatment he gave that FuCa last week.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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He'll be erased and forgotten within 20 2 years.
Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.
@Renauda said in Navalny dead:
He'll be erased and forgotten within 20 2 years.
Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.
May that day be very, very soon. He deserves to die at the haNd of the people.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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There are a lot in of frozen Russian assets throughout the West that could be seized and sold off for reparations to Ukraine.
Just might happen now.
@Renauda said in Navalny dead:
Just might happen now.
Might. If, after Russia invaded another country, the still have these assets, something tells me that it will not happen. It's only been 2 years...
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Renauda said in Navalny dead:
He'll be erased and forgotten within 20 2 years.
Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.
May that day be very, very soon. He deserves to die at the haNd of the people.
May that day be very, very soon. He deserves to die at the haNd of the people.
Not likely soon. Unlike past Russian autocrats and leaders, Putin makes sure Russians have easy access to food and that his fighting soldiers are comparatively well paid. So long as the people do not go hungry and his troops have cash, the national passivity will continue.
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Anyway, getting back to American elections, how does everybody think the sun exploding would affect voter turnout?
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Anyway, getting back to American elections, how does everybody think the sun exploding would affect voter turnout?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Navalny dead:
Anyway, getting back to American elections, how does everybody think the sun exploding would affect voter turnout?
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@Renauda said in Navalny dead:
Just might happen now.
Might. If, after Russia invaded another country, the still have these assets, something tells me that it will not happen. It's only been 2 years...
@George-K said in Navalny dead:
@Renauda said in Navalny dead:
Just might happen now.
Might. If, after Russia invaded another country, the still have these assets, something tells me that it will not happen. It's only been 2 years...
There is growing political pressure from within the G7 to sell off the assets. The lawyers of course don’t like it, but it is very much on the table.
Two scenarios for consideration:
Putin decreed last week that all property of Russian citizens who oppose the special military operation in Ukraine will be expropriated without compensation. This affects not only Russians who live in Russia, but also those Russians living abroad but who still hold personal property in back Russia. Not uncommon among the diaspora in the West who bought properties for family members who remained in Russia. It is a warning to Russians regardless of where they are.
Likewise, with Navalny’s murder - yes, I deliberately wrote the word, murder - a warning to all Russians not to involve themselves in opposition politics. Putin will be re
electedonce again anointed and blessed as Tsar autocrat of all the real and imagined Russias in the coming weeks. The West had better prepare itself to witness a return to a Russia that is has more in common with its Stalinist past than the fairy tale autocracies under the Tsars. The question then arises, why should the West hold the frozen assets? After all, Russia has no intention to observe any rule of law or accepted norm expected of a civilized country.Secondly, in the event of armistice talks over Ukraine, the assets will be used as secured collateral for reparations to Ukraine. Russia cannot be allowed under any pretence to walk away with political concessions, 20% or more of Ukraine and leaving a smouldering rump of what used to be Ukraine without paying.
Sooner or later those seized assets must be liquidated. Now is as good a time as any. The seized assets are for most part stolen property anyway. Besides, Putin has already seized and liquidated any and all of the remaining Western investors’ assets in Russia and redistributed them to his cronies.
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Okay go ahead, answer questions with questions.
I’ll tell you. It probably won’t be Trump or Putin.
