Navalny dead

[Doctor Phibes]

I was just going to post that.

More joy from Russia. Not only do they get to eat on the cheap, they also don't need to put up with listening to all that tiresome complaining about their glorious leader from the opposition.

[Darth Putin]

[George K]

Link to video

[Renauda]

Kremlin’s been slowly and methodically killing Navalny one body cell at a time for years. Finally managed the task.

I hope and trust the assassin, Putin, can feel safe now.

Putin’s day too will come.

[89th]

Link to video

[89th]

It's weird to have scene interviews (like the one above) and somewhat know in a few years there is no way he'll be alive.

And I believe that documentary trailer you sent above, that movie won the Best Documentary oscar.

[Renauda]

It is, of course, the collective West’s fault:

State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin is the latest Russian official to weigh in on Navalny's death, blaming Western leaders.

"All of them, their names are well-known, from the Nato secretary-general and the US leadership to Scholz, Sunak and Zelensky, are guilty of Navalny's death," the politician said on his Telegram channel.

"It is they who have made a huge number of failed decisions and cling to their positions who benefit from his death."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-68316979?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=65cf820957c60b5283ad2967%26Russian parliament speaker blames West%262024-02-16T16%3A12%3A48.821Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:f107ed55-348b-446c-a4aa-b0ebf6a15bd3&pinned_post_asset_id=65cf820957c60b5283ad2967&pinned_post_type=share

[George K]

I don't remember much about the documentary, but I never understood what Navalny decided to return to Russia.

What did he think would happen, Putin would engage in a discussion?

[Wim]

@George-K said in Navalny dead:

I don't remember much about the documentary, but I never understood what Navalny decided to return to Russia.

What did he think would happen, Putin would engage in a discussion?

Staying abroad would have resulted in political insignificance.

[George K]

@Wim said in Navalny dead:

Staying abroad would have resulted in political insignificance.

Yes.

Some might disagree, but political insignificance, to me, would be preferable to spending years in a Russian prison - where your political power is essentially zero, other than by reputation.

[Wim]

@George-K said in Navalny dead:

Some might disagree, but political insignificance, to me, would be preferable to spending years in a Russian prison - where your political power is essentially zero, other than by reputation.

That would be your choice. He made it clear he was willing to die if necessary.

[George K]

@Wim said in Navalny dead:

@George-K said in Navalny dead:

Some might disagree, but political insignificance, to me, would be preferable to spending years in a Russian prison - where your political power is essentially zero, other than by reputation.

That would be your choice. He made it clear he was willing to die if necessary.

Yes, again.

He succeeded. And accomplished...what? Martyrdom?

He'll be erased and forgotten within 20 2 years.

[Renauda]

"I also think that a murdered Alexei Navalny will be a bigger threat for the dictator than a living one," Akunin said. "Most likely, to drown out voices of protest, he (Putin) will launch a campaign of terror in the country."

https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/navalny-has-become-immortal-exiled-russian-writer-akunin-to-afp-89bf6953

Chilling

But Akunin is not exaggerating. He himself is on Putin’s hit list for “extremist propaganda” and there is a Russian warrant out for his arrest. He lives in exile in England. An hour ago I caught the tail of a BBC WS radio interview with Akunin. Very informative -,perhaps there will be a link posted with it on the BBC site. He was a close friend and associate of Navalny and saw the man’s transformation from a Russian nationalist to the champion of Russian liberal democracy he became following the murder of Nemtsov and others opposing Putin’s tyranny.

[Renauda]

@George-K

He'll be erased and forgotten within 20 2 years.

Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.

[George K]

@Renauda said in Navalny dead:

Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian do not forget, but they do get even.

Fair point.

Any clue of how Navalny is perceived in Russia?

[Renauda]

Difficult for me to say. The repression is pretty severe and people are cowed into passivity almost as they were during the Brezhnev era.

What I can tell you is that among the pro Putin diaspora here, the Kremlin’s propaganda painting him as a CIA schill and moral degenerate has been very effective.

[Renauda]

Next jailed “enemy of the people” (vrag naroda) on Putin’s murder list: Vladimir Kara-Murza

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68137044

[Doctor Phibes]

@Renauda said in Navalny dead:

Don’t confuse the apparent passivity of ordinary Russians with having short memories. That’s a Western trait. Russian people do not forget, but they do get even.

Funny you should say that, my Russian friend of some renown just posted "Не забудем! Не простим!", which the translator tells me means "Lest we forget! We will not forgive!" on his Facebook page.

[jon-nyc]

How long until TuCa makes some comment about omelettes and breaking eggs.

[Renauda]

@jon-nyc said in Navalny dead:

How long until TuCa makes some comment about omelettes and breaking eggs.

If he says “when you chop wood, chips fly” we will know for certain that he has been co-opted and is on the Kremlin payroll. Codename: Tucker Duranty