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  • T taiwan_girl
    7 Aug 2020, 02:00

    President Trump when asked by Sean Hannity on what his priorities would be for his second term:

    "Well, one of the things that will be really great -- you know, the word experience is still good. I always say talent is more important than experience, I've always said that. But the word experience is a very important word. It's a very important meaning. I never did this before. I never slept over in Washington. I was in Washington, I think, 17 times, all of a sudden, I'm president of the United States. You know the story, I'm riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our first lady and I say, this is great. But I didn't know very many people in Washington. It wasn't my thing. I was from Manhattan, from New York. Now, I know everybody and I have great people in the administration. You make some mistakes like, you know, an idiot like Bolton. All he wanted to do was drop bombs on everybody. You don't have to drop bombs on everybody. You don't have to kill people."

    🙄 🙄 🙄

    More and more, I think we should draft someone from this forum board to run. Definitely cannot be worse that what is currently being offered.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 07:32 last edited by
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    @taiwan_girl said in Incoherent?:

    President Trump when asked by Sean Hannity on what his priorities would be for his second term:

    "Well, one of the things that will be really great -- you know, the word experience is still good. I always say talent is more important than experience, I've always said that. But the word experience is a very important word. It's a very important meaning. I never did this before. I never slept over in Washington. I was in Washington, I think, 17 times, all of a sudden, I'm president of the United States. You know the story, I'm riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our first lady and I say, this is great. But I didn't know very many people in Washington. It wasn't my thing. I was from Manhattan, from New York. Now, I know everybody and I have great people in the administration. You make some mistakes like, you know, an idiot like Bolton. All he wanted to do was drop bombs on everybody. You don't have to drop bombs on everybody. You don't have to kill people."

    🙄 🙄 🙄

    More and more, I think we should draft someone from this forum board to run. Definitely cannot be worse that what is currently being offered.

    You know, that's a pretty cognizant sentence, if you knew what Trump went through when he started his term.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 11:23 last edited by
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      It's positively Churchillian.

      He should write a book.

      I was only joking

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        Jolly
        wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 12:29 last edited by
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        He probably will.

        And it will be yuge!

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          7 Aug 2020, 11:23

          It's positively Churchillian.

          He should write a book.

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 12:34 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Incoherent?:

          It's positively Churchillian.
          He should write a book.

          If he did, it would be more Joyceian. If Joyce wrote it while insane.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • C Catseye3
            7 Aug 2020, 12:34

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Incoherent?:

            It's positively Churchillian.
            He should write a book.

            If he did, it would be more Joyceian. If Joyce wrote it while insane.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 12:41 last edited by Jolly 8 Jul 2020, 12:41
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            @Catseye3 said in Incoherent?:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Incoherent?:

            It's positively Churchillian.
            He should write a book.

            If he did, it would be more Joyceian. If Joyce wrote it while insane.

            At least you will have something in common with him!😛😛

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 13:32 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Jul 2020, 13:32
              #18

              I don't think the world is ready for Donald Trump writing about his bowel movements.

              Still, listening to him spend more time trying to pronounce Ulysses would be entertaining.

              I was only joking

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                7 Aug 2020, 13:32

                I don't think the world is ready for Donald Trump writing about his bowel movements.

                Still, listening to him spend more time trying to pronounce Ulysses would be entertaining.

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                Catseye3
                wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 13:34 last edited by Catseye3 8 Jul 2020, 13:34
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Incoherent?:

                listening to him spend more time trying to pronounce Ulysses would be entertaining.

                Yeah, he could title the book Ulysses in Yosemite.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 14:05 last edited by
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                  Yo, Semite! You - licious!

                  I was only joking

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                    Larry
                    wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 14:23 last edited by
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                    This thread is a good example of TDS. The thread was started to discuss whether or not Joe Biden is coherent. Exactly 3 posts addressed the topic, then two more that were on topic but just intentional humor. Then TG completely ignores the topic and starts smearing Trump, and the next 16 posts are all about Trump.

                    Not only is Biden incoherent, so are you TDS sufferers.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 14:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Jul 2020, 14:28
                      #22

                      Lighten up, Francis. 😁

                      I was only joking

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 14:31 last edited by
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                        I could complain about the perfectly harmless non-political threads of mine that some motherfucker individual hijacked and turned into a Trump discussion, but I'm trying to be nice for the weekend.

                        I was only joking

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          7 Aug 2020, 14:31

                          I could complain about the perfectly harmless non-political threads of mine that some motherfucker individual hijacked and turned into a Trump discussion, but I'm trying to be nice for the weekend.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 14:58 last edited by
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Incoherent?:

                          I could complain about the perfectly harmless non-political threads of mine that some motherfucker individual hijacked and turned into a Trump discussion, but I'm trying to be nice for the weekend.

                          MAGBA

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • 8 89th
                            6 Aug 2020, 23:51

                            I remember when he lost to Obama in the 2012 primaries, and thinking “well, his next chance would be 2020 and he’d be way too old at that point.” Well...

                            The debates are going to be gaffe city.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 15:03 last edited by
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                            @89th said in Incoherent?:

                            I remember when he lost to Obama in the 2012 primaries, and thinking “well, his next chance would be 2020 and he’d be way too old at that point.” Well...

                            The debates are going to be gaffe city.

                            Joe didn’t challenge Obama in 2012. Nobody did that I’m aware of.

                            The Brad

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 15:04 last edited by
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                              And there was no reason to not expect Joe to run in 16.

                              The Brad

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 15:14 last edited by
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                                People fall into one of two categories - leader or follower, detail orientated or visionary...
                                Nothing wrong with either type, one just has to accept his shortcomings. The term "visionary" is not meant to imply some sort of superiority to a detail type, it's simple a word to describe someone who can see the long view.

                                Detail people are really good at keeping things organized. The tend to pursue careers that allow them to focus in on tiny little details, such as computer programming, accounting, etc. Visionary types aren't very good at handling the minutia of the moment. They are much happier looking further down the road. It takes both types - a detail type will do great counting the money a business generates, but wouldn't have a clue how to build a business. A detail person will do great at writing a computer program, but wouldn't have a clue how to develop the idea for the program. Likewise, a visionary will do great at guiding a business into the future, but terrible at keeping track of all the little details that pop up by the minute.

                                A smart visionary type will accept his limitations, and hire some detail types to handle the deatils. A good detail type will accept his limitations and find a visionary type to work for. Because without the vision there won't be any details to take care of, and without someone handling the details the vision never gets achieved. Things go haywire when a visionary type tries to be a detail type. Things go haywire when a detail type tries to be a visionary. One isn't superior to the other, one isn't more important than the other. Think of it like the differences in gender - it takes both men and women to make a baby. But you'll see problems when men try to be women or women try to be men.

                                Trump is a visionary type. Other visionary types can see it and understand how he thinks. He makes sense to them. Detail types cannot understand "vision think". They expect every "I" dotted perfectly, everything kept all in neat little rows that they can chew on and obsess over in great detail. The problems come when the detail types look up from their navel and try to look out into the next day.

                                TDS is most evident among detail types.

                                So in keeping with who I am..... go back to staring at your navel and leave the thinking to those equipped for the task......

                                😉

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 15:18 last edited by
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                                  I am a computer programmer who is also a visionary leader.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • H Horace
                                    7 Aug 2020, 15:18

                                    I am a computer programmer who is also a visionary leader.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 15:26 last edited by
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                                    @Horace said in Incoherent?:

                                    I am a computer programmer who is also a visionary leader.

                                    Which are you worst at?

                                    I was going to ask which are you best at, but thought that might be a tad presumptious.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • L LuFins Dad
                                      7 Aug 2020, 15:03

                                      @89th said in Incoherent?:

                                      I remember when he lost to Obama in the 2012 primaries, and thinking “well, his next chance would be 2020 and he’d be way too old at that point.” Well...

                                      The debates are going to be gaffe city.

                                      Joe didn’t challenge Obama in 2012. Nobody did that I’m aware of.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 15:26 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Incoherent?:

                                      @89th said in Incoherent?:

                                      I remember when he lost to Obama in the 2012 primaries, and thinking “well, his next chance would be 2020 and he’d be way too old at that point.” Well...

                                      The debates are going to be gaffe city.

                                      Joe didn’t challenge Obama in 2012. Nobody did that I’m aware of.

                                      You are right, I meant 2008. Wow 12 years instead of eight, makes my point even more so!

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 15:31 last edited by
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                                        My guess is Biden's been talked into this. I doubt he particularly wanted to run, but could see the hopelessness of the rest of the candidates. He's clearly passed his sell-by date.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • L Larry
                                          7 Aug 2020, 14:23

                                          This thread is a good example of TDS. The thread was started to discuss whether or not Joe Biden is coherent. Exactly 3 posts addressed the topic, then two more that were on topic but just intentional humor. Then TG completely ignores the topic and starts smearing Trump, and the next 16 posts are all about Trump.

                                          Not only is Biden incoherent, so are you TDS sufferers.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 15:45 last edited by Jolly 8 Jul 2020, 15:46
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                                          @Larry said in Incoherent?:

                                          This thread is a good example of TDS. The thread was started to discuss whether or not Joe Biden is coherent. Exactly 3 posts addressed the topic, then two more that were on topic but just intentional humor. Then TG completely ignores the topic and starts smearing Trump, and the next 16 posts are all about Trump.

                                          Not only is Biden incoherent, so are you TDS sufferers.

                                          Don't you understand? Trump is walking around in their minds, bereft of his usual shoes, having donned 12-league boots.😄😄

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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