Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise
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wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:42 last edited by
The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.
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So, anybody who doesn't support him isn't a real American. Right, nothing cult-like there, at all.
wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:45 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
So, anybody who doesn't support him isn't a real American. Right, nothing cult-like there, at all.
I didn't say that. You're the one drawing lines, not me.
But now that you mention it, let's consider the actions of your side of the aisle and see how American they are.. burning flags, infanticide, attempting to make us a Socialist country, chanting "fuck America", and on an on. That's the side you're on, whether you are willing to admit it or not. And that's not American.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:47 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Jun 2020, 17:48
That's not actually the side I'm on, at all.
I know that would simplify things, but that doesn't make it true.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:49 last edited by
Well, having read several years of your opinions.... Yes, that's the side you're on.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:52 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Jun 2020, 17:53
Whatever you say, Larry. Always the voice of reason.
You paint anybody who doesn't agree with you as an imbecile, or an extremist, or both.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 17:56 last edited by
No, I paint anyone who is on the left as mentally ill. And the proof of that is all over the place.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:22 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Jun 2020, 18:23
I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.
And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.
If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.
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I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.
And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.
If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.
wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:29 last edited by Catseye3 8 Jun 2020, 18:30@Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.
Me, neither. More than usual, these two candidates are both supremely bad. I can see a road to ruin for this my beloved country with either of them.
Though I don't regard it as inevitable.
My sole hope is that Biden, being of the political class and having spent beaucoup years in the political system, will be less of a loose cannon and may be more amenable to working with the other branch.
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@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
@Larry said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
Who is Aqua Copper?
Oops - need to edit! LOL
Edited. LOL Copper and Aqua were right next to each other on my alaphet list. I had copper as R and Aqua as CL
I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.
CL or no, I'll say this for nothing: I'm far more comfortable hanging with Trumpists these days than anyone woke.
wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:32 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.
Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.
But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.
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I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.
And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.
If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.
wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:35 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.
And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.
If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.
Why shouldn't I? Isn't that exactly what you did to me when you labeled me as a "Trumpist" and said I was a "follower"?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.
And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.
If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.
Why shouldn't I? Isn't that exactly what you did to me when you labeled me as a "Trumpist" and said I was a "follower"?
wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:37 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Jun 2020, 18:39@Larry said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.
And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.
If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.
Why shouldn't I? Isn't that exactly what you did to me when you labeled me as a "Trumpist" and said I was a "follower"?
Where did I do that? I actually called his followers trumpeters, which was supposed to be an amusing play on words.
I know, I know, these are serious times. No room for humour when we're saving the world.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:38 last edited by
"My sole hope is that Biden, being of the political class and having spent beaucoup years in the political system, will be less of a loose cannon and may be more amenable to working with the other branch."
Biden has been in politics over 40 years. He didn't accomplish a damned thing during those 40 years, so there's no reason to believe he will now.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:51 last edited by
Fun exercise @taiwan_girl ! Yes I’d put myself in CR for sure.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.
Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.
But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.
wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:52 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.
Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.
But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.
Well I have observed that you anointed yourself. But subtle subtleties are subtle.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.
Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.
But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.
wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 19:38 last edited by Mik 8 Jun 2020, 19:38@jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.
Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.
But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.
No, anyone can be Objective. You have the market cornered on Objectionable.
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@jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.
Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.
But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.
Well I have observed that you anointed yourself. But subtle subtleties are subtle.
wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 19:38 last edited by@Horace said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
@jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.
Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.
But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.
Well I have observed that you anointed yourself. But subtle subtleties are subtle.
Anointed. In this case it means "I didn't have a tissue handy".
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For fun, I decided to see the politics composition of this forum board. I looked at all posters with 25 or more posts and ranked them into 4 categories. There were 35 people.
Right
Center Right
Center Left
LeftThe percents were
R = 14
CR = 43
CL = 34
L = 9Below is how I see the people. Anybody disagree?
89th CR
Aqua L CL
Copper R
Axtremus L
Bachophile CL
Brenda CR
CatsEye CL
Dr. Phibes CL
Friday CL
George CR
Horace R
ILM CR
Improviso R
IvoryThumper CR
Jeffery CR
Jolly R
Jon CL
Kincaid CR
Klaus CL
Kluurs CR
Larry R
Loki CR
LuFIns Dad CR
MarinerMike CR
Mark CR
Mik CR
Nobodys Sock L
Optimistic CL
Quantum CR
Rainman CR
Renauda CL
Rich CL
Taiwan Girl CL
WTG L
Xenon CLwrote on 6 Aug 2020, 20:22 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
Klaus CL
In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.
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wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 21:53 last edited by
I count only three "L" in the list, but typical for the far left, the number is listed as 9. I almost rest my case.
Ax, Left? No way. He's right down the middle, sensible. Is there an "S" category? There should be. Me and Ax. Both "S's" and appropriately look down on everyone else.
You should all just be grateful that Me and Ax even talk to anyone else in the world, let alone any comrades here.
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The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.
wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 22:01 last edited by@Horace said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.
It is shameful.
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@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
Klaus CL
In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.
wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 00:01 last edited by@Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:
Klaus CL
In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.
Acfually, I'd say Larry and I both would be classified as positively revolutionists...In 1776.
But yes, I would peg you as classical liberal...Which is pretty conservative in America...
