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Miss Japan - 2024

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  • 89th8 89th

    My first thought was, is she a dude? Sad we even have to think that these days.

    Also, I get the criticism. In what is clearly a politically incorrect and phobic opinion that I will immediately go to confession for... I have no problem with countries and cultures including how their citizens look as one aspect of their culture. Japanese women should look... japanese. Same with australia, england, france, mexico, etc. It's part of our inherent tribalism as human beings. But I am a dying breed, I suppose.

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    @89th said in Miss Japan - 2024:

    My first thought was, is she a dude? Sad we even have to think that these days.

    Sigh, I thought the same thing.

    Also, I get the criticism. In what is clearly a politically incorrect and phobic opinion that I will immediately go to confession for... I have no problem with countries and cultures including how their citizens look as one aspect of their culture. Japanese women should look... japanese. Same with australia, england, france, mexico, etc. It's part of our inherent tribalism as human beings. But I am a dying breed, I suppose.

    If she "identifies" as Japanese, there should be no problem, amirite?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      I didn’t help that her talent show portion was her dancing to I Think I’m Turning Japanese

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      • 89th8 89th

        I didn’t help that her talent show portion was her dancing to I Think I’m Turning Japanese

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        @89th said in Miss Japan - 2024:

        I didn’t help that her talent show portion was her dancing to I Think I’m Turning Japanese

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          I thought being trans would be the only reason it would be posted, but I was off on that. So it must be cultural appropriation, right?

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            No longer Miss Japan

            Karolina Shiino, the Ukraine-born winner of last month’s Miss Japan contest, has relinquished her title, the contest organizer said Monday, following a magazine report that she was having an affair with a married man.

            https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/02/05/japan/society/miss-japan-karolina-shiino-resigns/

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              So, having an affair is a disqualifying transgression.

              Not being Japanese is not.

              Japanese are becoming as crazy as we are.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                A friend of mine entered a Miss Japanese contest once. The criteria then (90s) was that she, one of her parents, or one of her grandparents had to be born in Japan. She came in third.

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                • George KG George K

                  So, having an affair is a disqualifying transgression.

                  Not being Japanese is not.

                  Japanese are becoming as crazy as we are.

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                  @George-K said in Miss Japan - 2024:

                  Not being Japanese is not.

                  Japanese are becoming as crazy as we are.

                  Japanese by blood?
                  Japanese by citizenship?
                  Japanese by heritage?
                  Japanese by residency?
                  Japanese by character?
                  Japanese by lifestyle?
                  Japanese by state of mind?
                  Japanese by spirit?

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                    @George-K said in Miss Japan - 2024:

                    Not being Japanese is not.

                    Japanese are becoming as crazy as we are.

                    Japanese by blood?
                    Japanese by citizenship?
                    Japanese by heritage?
                    Japanese by residency?
                    Japanese by character?
                    Japanese by lifestyle?
                    Japanese by state of mind?
                    Japanese by spirit?

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                    @Axtremus said in Miss Japan - 2024:

                    @George-K said in Miss Japan - 2024:

                    Not being Japanese is not.

                    Japanese are becoming as crazy as we are.

                    Japanese by blood?
                    Japanese by citizenship?
                    Japanese by heritage?
                    Japanese by residency?
                    Japanese by character?
                    Japanese by lifestyle?
                    Japanese by state of mind?
                    Japanese by spirit?

                    Exactly.

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • F Friday

                      A friend of mine entered a Miss Japanese contest once. The criteria then (90s) was that she, one of her parents, or one of her grandparents had to be born in Japan. She came in third.

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                      @Friday said in Miss Japan - 2024:
                      The criteria then (90s) was that she, one of her parents, or one of her grandparents had to be born in Japan.

                      Back then you didn't have to specify being female, either.

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                        What's the point of beauty contests? I've never understood them. Frequently, the women aren't particularly hot. I haven't seen one in years, but I remember in the old days they all used to be very skinny and tall, and the contest seemed to consist of a bunch of vaguely creepy people judging them, and then they all burst into tears as though it matters.

                        I was only joking

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                          https://soh.omeka.chass.ncsu.edu/exhibits/show/gwdsocial/pageant/1960s

                          Beauty pageants had their origin in photographic beauty contests that were publicized in newspapers in the 1850’s, and bathing beauty contests in the 1880’s.

                          https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/missamerica-beauty-pageant-origins-and-culture/

                          Origins of the Beauty Pageant
                          Contests to determine "who is the fairest of them all" have been around at least since ancient Greece and the Judgment of Paris. According to legend, a poor mortal goatherd, Alexandros (Paris), was called upon to settle a dispute among the goddesses. Who was the most beautiful: Hera (Juno), Aprhodite (Venus), or Athena (Minerva)? All three goddesses offered bribes: according to the writer Apollodorus, "Hera said that if she were preferred to all women, she would give him the kingdom over all men; and Athena promised victory in war, and Aphrodite the hand of Helen." When Paris selected Aphrodite in exchange for getting Helen of Troy, the most beautiful mortal of the time, he inadvertently started the Trojan War.

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                            Is it Saudi Arabia where they have beauty contests for camels? And apparently somebody cheated by giving theirs Botox.

                            That's one fucked up country. I mean - who honestly thinks a camel isn't perfect already and needs plastic surgery?

                            I was only joking

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                              Saudi Arabia beauty pageant.

                              alt text

                              And the winner is...... the lady in the black!!!

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                @Friday said in Miss Japan - 2024:
                                The criteria then (90s) was that she, one of her parents, or one of her grandparents had to be born in Japan.

                                Back then you didn't have to specify being female, either.

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                                @89th

                                Oh yeah. I forgot that part.
                                😁

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