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The Rabbit Tactic (1500M speedskating strategy)

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    A rare strategic move that actually worked. The race is about 13 laps in length, normally folks start out really slow and then it builds to a sprint. In this case, Yang uses the rabbit tactic to immediately lap the field and settle in behind the pack "in last" (but really in 1st place). The bell lap goes off for the final lap... but really everyone else still has 2 laps, but I guess they forget. Confusion... for example, #11 (Hungary) sticks her skate out as she passes the finish line only to realize they all still have one lap left. She gets 4th. Fun race, check it out...

    Link to video

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #2

      What timestamp? I would like to watch the underhanded deceitful trickery you describe.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
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        #3

        2:32:16

        Education is extremely important.

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          89th
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          Sorry, thought the link sent you to that timestamp. I'm not that big of a jerk!

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #5

            This forum software doesn’t honor the timestamp in the link. Sad.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
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              #6

              Even the announcer was confused. 555

              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                Even the announcer was confused. 555

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @taiwan_girl said in The Rabbit Tactic (1500M speedskating strategy):

                Even the announcer was confused. 555

                He seems to forget that Yang took the lead after about 1 ½ laps.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • AxtremusA Away
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                  Axtremus
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                  #8

                  After she leads by one lap, can she take advantage of aerodynamic drag behind other racers? Or is this a purely psychological tactic?

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
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                    #9

                    I am pretty sure there is truth to the aerodynamic drag. Bicycle racers, birds, etc. I think I heard a number of somewhere between 10-15% less energy if you are able to draft.

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
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                      #10

                      The oriental speed skaters practice so much that their eyes get stretched back.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        The oriental speed skaters practice so much that their eyes get stretched back.

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                        George K
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                        @Horace said in The Rabbit Tactic (1500M speedskating strategy):

                        The oriental speed skaters practice to much that their eyes get stretched back.

                        LOL, you said "Oriental," you racist.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          #12

                          A Talladega Train:

                          Link to video

                          Those are trucks, the cars do that at 200mph on the straightaway.

                          Not as fast as a Talladega Train, but I think it shows some of the speed...

                          Link to video

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            89th
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Man that would be fun to watch in person one day, Jolly. I've been on the Rockingham Speedway before, man the angle of the turns would blow your mind. Ok maybe not yours, but someone who hasn't been to a racetrack like that before.

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                              I used to go to Talladega, because my son was a huge NASCAR fan. Never been to Daytona. Both tracks are super speedways, especially Talladega. Daytona may be the better experience, though (not necessarily family friendly).

                              Sadly, NASCAR isn't as popular as it once was. They started chasing butts in the seats (Texas Motor Speedway held 200,000 in the stands) and forgot their core fans.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
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                                #15

                                I went to Talladega in 1993 with a couple of buddies. In the infield with a truck.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Funny, you don't strike me as the NASCAR type.

                                  What did she look like?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #17

                                    You and I had this conversation years ago. I’m not a racing fan, F1, NASCAR or Indy.

                                    But I was in the area on a project and a local invited three of us out-of-town guys to go. It was fun.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      Sorry, I've slept since then.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        You and I had this conversation years ago. I’m not a racing fan, F1, NASCAR or Indy.

                                        But I was in the area on a project and a local invited three of us out-of-town guys to go. It was fun.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @jon-nyc said in The Rabbit Tactic (1500M speedskating strategy):

                                        I’m not a racing fan, F1, NASCAR or Indy.

                                        I seem to think you were the guy who described F1 as a niche-sport in the middle of a discussion about baseball or American League Cornholing or something.

                                        I was only joking

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