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    Jolly
    wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 11:52 last edited by
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    Kindergarten Cop?

    https://reason.com/2020/08/04/kindergarten-cop-is-canceled-likened-to-birth-of-a-nation/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      George K
      wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 12:26 last edited by
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      Amazing.

      What's also amazing is that Reason now has a whole sub-page called "Cancel Culture."

      https://reason.com/tag/cancel-culture/

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Mik
        wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 12:53 last edited by
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        Kindergarten Cop feeds racist culture. Now I've heard it all.

        You will find what you look for if you have already decided it is there.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 13:00 last edited by
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          From the article: "This sort of skirmish is the predictable and regrettable outcome of the politicization of everything and a totalist approach to cultural production and consumption that assumes audience members are either slack-jawed dullards who are effectively programmed by what they watch or ultra-sensitive flowers shredded by every imaginable slight. Either way, madness lies."

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            Copper
            wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 13:06 last edited by
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            They are relics of how pop culture feeds racist assumptions.

            So, pop culture doesn't feed racist assumptions anymore.

            Let's kneel for a moment and think about this.

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            • M Mik
              5 Aug 2020, 12:53

              Kindergarten Cop feeds racist culture. Now I've heard it all.

              You will find what you look for if you have already decided it is there.

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 13:13 last edited by
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              @Mik said in Canceled:

              You will find what you look for if you have already decided it is there.

              What is really starting to chap my butt is the insufferable self righteousness with which these people speak -- the fatuous, ueber-satisfied, doubt-free virtue signalling. Every time one of these fools speaks, the next speaker is that much more certain in his rectitude.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                Loki
                wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 13:57 last edited by Loki 8 May 2020, 13:58
                #7

                Burning books are next.

                Oh ray bradbury you had no idea...

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 14:00 last edited by
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                  They were burning Bibles and American flags the other night...Does that count?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    5 Aug 2020, 11:52

                    Kindergarten Cop?

                    https://reason.com/2020/08/04/kindergarten-cop-is-canceled-likened-to-birth-of-a-nation/

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 15:51 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in Canceled:

                    Kindergarten Cop?

                    https://reason.com/2020/08/04/kindergarten-cop-is-canceled-likened-to-birth-of-a-nation/

                    Goofy. I thought it was a funny movie.

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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 17:10 last edited by Catseye3 8 May 2020, 17:13
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                      I would love to know the true dimensions of all this. That is, how many woke are there really, versus how many others who either don't know from woke or if they do, don't care about it.

                      Are the MSM giving us a false picture? Saying to us, dance, puppet, dance? If so, to what degree?

                      I hate being led around by the nose.

                      Take a university, as a made-up example. Forty-five percent of the student body are woke, and are making the most noise. The rest are either meh or perturbed by the woke's presence and influence, but we never hear about those. How would we know? Are there social media threads that are specifically non-woke and talking about it?

                      Same with other entities.

                      I know woke is widespread. But how much, compared to the general population?

                      I can almost guarantee one thing. For any woke 22 and under, the thrill will fade, and they will wake up one morning and wonder what the hell that was all about.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 17:32 last edited by
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                        In my house we have a sample size of two teenagers. One is definitely woke, the other definitely isn't. As for the parents....

                        I was only joking

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 17:38 last edited by
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                          I wonder if there's a minimization of the impact parents have on the worldviews of their kids, due to the internet and all the pop culture ideas it surrounds kids with. That and how schools are intentionally acculturating the young minds moreso than in the past.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            xenon
                            wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 18:58 last edited by xenon 8 May 2020, 18:58
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                            I'm very curious what the woke delta will be between me and my kids.

                            I plan to remain pretty crass (sane?) in my own home.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 19:00 last edited by Mik 8 May 2020, 19:02
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                              Don't teach them what to believe. Teach them how to think critically about what to believe. Don't worry too much about what conclusions they come to while young. It is normal to be idealistic at that age. Their judgement will mature.

                              The best gift you can give them is the ability to reason.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • H Horace
                                5 Aug 2020, 17:38

                                I wonder if there's a minimization of the impact parents have on the worldviews of their kids, due to the internet and all the pop culture ideas it surrounds kids with. That and how schools are intentionally acculturating the young minds moreso than in the past.

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 19:02 last edited by
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                                @Horace said in Canceled:

                                I wonder if there's a minimization of the impact parents have on the worldviews of their kids, due to the internet and all the pop culture ideas it surrounds kids with. That and how schools are intentionally acculturating the young minds moreso than in the past.

                                There has always been a generation gap of views. That’s not news. Those from strong families will ultimately value the relationship they have with that tribe because there is no one else who truly cares.

                                The problem is that increasingly people don’t come from a strong family and it is no longer the majority. Where they will develop an identity from is their journey.

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                                  5 Aug 2020, 19:02

                                  @Horace said in Canceled:

                                  I wonder if there's a minimization of the impact parents have on the worldviews of their kids, due to the internet and all the pop culture ideas it surrounds kids with. That and how schools are intentionally acculturating the young minds moreso than in the past.

                                  There has always been a generation gap of views. That’s not news. Those from strong families will ultimately value the relationship they have with that tribe because there is no one else who truly cares.

                                  The problem is that increasingly people don’t come from a strong family and it is no longer the majority. Where they will develop an identity from is their journey.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 19:14 last edited by
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                                  @Loki said in Canceled:

                                  @Horace said in Canceled:

                                  I wonder if there's a minimization of the impact parents have on the worldviews of their kids, due to the internet and all the pop culture ideas it surrounds kids with. That and how schools are intentionally acculturating the young minds moreso than in the past.

                                  There has always been a generation gap of views. That’s not news. Those from strong families will ultimately value the relationship they have with that tribe because there is no one else who truly cares.
                                  The problem is that increasingly people don’t come from a strong family and it is no longer the majority. Where they will develop an identity from is their journey.

                                  I agree that best case scenario, we get two people who legit love us, our parents. I am not optimistic that a good society can be built without that basic unit being the norm.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • M Mik
                                    5 Aug 2020, 19:00

                                    Don't teach them what to believe. Teach them how to think critically about what to believe. Don't worry too much about what conclusions they come to while young. It is normal to be idealistic at that age. Their judgement will mature.

                                    The best gift you can give them is the ability to reason.

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 20:27 last edited by
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                                    @Mik good advice

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                                      Kincaid
                                      wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 20:28 last edited by
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                                      Absent any examples of what local author and busy body Lois Leveen (never heard of her) sees as promoting a school to prison pipeline I am clueless as to what she's talking about. The villain is a white drug dealer, so is not exactly a racist stereotype.

                                      "Kindergarten Cop has been replaced by a second showing of John Lewis: Good Trouble, a documentary about the recently deceased congressman and civil rights leader. Other films in the series include Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Xanadu, Pee Wee's Big Adventure, and The Shining."

                                      So, apparently they will replace "too grim for children" with a super boring but very woke documentary of a world gone by.

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                                      • C Catseye3
                                        5 Aug 2020, 17:10

                                        I would love to know the true dimensions of all this. That is, how many woke are there really, versus how many others who either don't know from woke or if they do, don't care about it.

                                        Are the MSM giving us a false picture? Saying to us, dance, puppet, dance? If so, to what degree?

                                        I hate being led around by the nose.

                                        Take a university, as a made-up example. Forty-five percent of the student body are woke, and are making the most noise. The rest are either meh or perturbed by the woke's presence and influence, but we never hear about those. How would we know? Are there social media threads that are specifically non-woke and talking about it?

                                        Same with other entities.

                                        I know woke is widespread. But how much, compared to the general population?

                                        I can almost guarantee one thing. For any woke 22 and under, the thrill will fade, and they will wake up one morning and wonder what the hell that was all about.

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                                        Kincaid
                                        wrote on 5 Aug 2020, 20:30 last edited by Kincaid 8 May 2020, 20:30
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                                        @Catseye3 said in Canceled:

                                        I can almost guarantee one thing. For any woke 22 and under, the thrill will fade, and they will wake up one morning and wonder what the hell that was all about.

                                        My 22-year-old is woke-lite, and took a class in college nicknamed "Bullshit Detecting". Unfortunately it was mostly focused on sniffing out the bullshit from the right and not the left, and so it is more difficult for her to detect the latter.

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                                        • M Mik
                                          5 Aug 2020, 12:53

                                          Kindergarten Cop feeds racist culture. Now I've heard it all.

                                          You will find what you look for if you have already decided it is there.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 03:10 last edited by
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                                          @Mik said in Canceled:

                                          Kindergarten Cop feeds racist culture. Now I've heard it all.

                                          You will find what you look for if you have already decided it is there.

                                          I must be dumb. I don’t even know what folks are objecting to! Seriously.

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