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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    A very good piece from WSJ

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-wins-the-gop-iowa-caucus/ar-AA1n5tox

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #22

      Dick Morris (remember him?) comments:

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        Vivek was always running for VEEP.

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        #23

        @George-K said in Iowa:

        Vivek was always running for VEEP.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Dick Morris (remember him?) comments:

          MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #24

          @George-K Well. Dick Morris. That was random.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
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            #25

            The crowd was even chanting "VP! VP!" I think. Good speech overall, I liked the opening line about so much focus on diversity and differences that we've forgotten to focus on what makes us the same. Good stuff.

            I can see the Trump/Vivek sign now.

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            • George KG George K

              Dick Morris (remember him?) comments:

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #26

              @George-K said in Iowa:

              Dick Morris (remember him?) comments:

              Wasn't that Onslow from Keeping Up Appearances?

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              I was only joking

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              • 89th8 89th

                The crowd was even chanting "VP! VP!" I think. Good speech overall, I liked the opening line about so much focus on diversity and differences that we've forgotten to focus on what makes us the same. Good stuff.

                I can see the Trump/Vivek sign now.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #27

                @89th said in Iowa:

                I can see the Trump/Vivek sign now.

                If nothing else, it might take people's minds off how annoying Trump is.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @89th said in Iowa:

                  I can see the Trump/Vivek sign now.

                  If nothing else, it might take people's minds off how annoying Trump is.

                  MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #28

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Iowa:

                  If nothing else, it might take people's minds off how annoying Trump is.

                  😆

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    The crowd was even chanting "VP! VP!" I think. Good speech overall, I liked the opening line about so much focus on diversity and differences that we've forgotten to focus on what makes us the same. Good stuff.

                    I can see the Trump/Vivek sign now.

                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
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                    #29

                    @89th said in Iowa:

                    I can see the Trump/Vivek sign now.

                    Trump-Vivek ➡ TV.

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
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                      #30

                      And the Bee runs afoul of the wokees..

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/babylon-bee-receives-backlash-after-racist-joke-about-vivek-ramaswamy-running-white-house-7-eleven/ar-AA1n5DNM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ead192f87d52491a90e61242cbf8bd1f&ei=21

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • MikM Mik

                        And the Bee runs afoul of the wokees..

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/babylon-bee-receives-backlash-after-racist-joke-about-vivek-ramaswamy-running-white-house-7-eleven/ar-AA1n5DNM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ead192f87d52491a90e61242cbf8bd1f&ei=21

                        AxtremusA Offline
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                        Axtremus
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                        #31

                        @Mik said in Iowa:

                        And the Bee runs afoul of the wokees..

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/babylon-bee-receives-backlash-after-racist-joke-about-vivek-ramaswamy-running-white-house-7-eleven/ar-AA1n5DNM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ead192f87d52491a90e61242cbf8bd1f&ei=21

                        Also makes you wonder, if Vivek gets 7-Eleven, what will Nikki get?

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                        • MikM Mik

                          And the Bee runs afoul of the wokees..

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/babylon-bee-receives-backlash-after-racist-joke-about-vivek-ramaswamy-running-white-house-7-eleven/ar-AA1n5DNM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ead192f87d52491a90e61242cbf8bd1f&ei=21

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #32

                          @Mik said in Iowa:

                          And the Bee runs afoul of the wokees..

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/babylon-bee-receives-backlash-after-racist-joke-about-vivek-ramaswamy-running-white-house-7-eleven/ar-AA1n5DNM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ead192f87d52491a90e61242cbf8bd1f&ei=21

                          Seriously - complaining that it was in poor taste?

                          What other kinds of taste are there?

                          I was only joking

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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            89th
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                            #33

                            Honestly all I'm wondering is if Kamala will cross-train Vivek on his first day working the White House 7-11.

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                            • MikM Mik

                              And the Bee runs afoul of the wokees..

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/babylon-bee-receives-backlash-after-racist-joke-about-vivek-ramaswamy-running-white-house-7-eleven/ar-AA1n5DNM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ead192f87d52491a90e61242cbf8bd1f&ei=21

                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by George K
                              #34

                              @Mik said in Iowa:

                              And the Bee runs afoul of the wokees..

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/babylon-bee-receives-backlash-after-racist-joke-about-vivek-ramaswamy-running-white-house-7-eleven/ar-AA1n5DNM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ead192f87d52491a90e61242cbf8bd1f&ei=21

                              Funny how the Wokies were pretty silent when Uncle Grandpa Joe made a similar comment.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • 89th8 Offline
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                                89th
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #35

                                I love the "I'm not joking" ending to that clip.

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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  89th
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                                  #36

                                  You know, just as we said would happen (like 2016) Trump will win as the rest of the field is fractured for the non-Trump vote. Imagine if it was just Nikki or Ron, the primaries would be closer to a 55/45 split which would change the dynamics BIGLY in NH and other primaries soon.

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    You know, just as we said would happen (like 2016) Trump will win as the rest of the field is fractured for the non-Trump vote. Imagine if it was just Nikki or Ron, the primaries would be closer to a 55/45 split which would change the dynamics BIGLY in NH and other primaries soon.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #37

                                    @89th said in Iowa:

                                    Imagine if it was just Nikki or Ron

                                    I think each of them sees the other as a spoiler.

                                    ("If only Nikki weren't running, I'd have a shot")

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      You know, just as we said would happen (like 2016) Trump will win as the rest of the field is fractured for the non-Trump vote. Imagine if it was just Nikki or Ron, the primaries would be closer to a 55/45 split which would change the dynamics BIGLY in NH and other primaries soon.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #38

                                      @89th said in Iowa:

                                      You know, just as we said would happen (like 2016) Trump will win as the rest of the field is fractured for the non-Trump vote. Imagine if it was just Nikki or Ron, the primaries would be closer to a 55/45 split which would change the dynamics BIGLY in NH and other primaries soon.

                                      Nope.

                                      Trump has 40% of the vote that would run through a brick wall for him (BTW, that's not an original statement). To think that anybody will defeat him in the GOP primaries was drug induced nonsense.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        89th
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                                        #39

                                        Not saying they would beat him. But I saw a lot of people at the caucus interviewed saying they were voting for him because they knew he would win Iowa. If some of those folks saw a candidate at 40 or 45%, there’s motivation to try to get a non-Trump candidate across the finish line.

                                        Trump will win the nomination and lose the election again. I doubt he’s gained any more supporters since his sore loser tantrum after his landslide loss in 2020. I suspect voter turnout will be lower than 2020 but with an overall similar electoral result.

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                                          Jolly
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                                          #40

                                          If voter turnout is lower, I think Trump wins. I think his bloc of voters is just more enthusiastic and committed.

                                          Biden's basement strategy was a one-off in the middle of a pandemic. I don't think even Dr. Jill is excited to vote to reelect The Resident...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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