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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    #4

    Copy paste of article above. Was behind paywall.

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      89th
      wrote on last edited by
      #5

      Anyway. Funny timing. A few days ago a buddy asked about Zyns and I said I had never heard of it.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
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        #6

        This is evil.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #7

          Hook 'em while they're young.

          (too lazy to look)

          Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Hook 'em while they're young.

            (too lazy to look)

            Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

            AxtremusA Offline
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            #8

            @George-K said in zyn?:

            Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

            Neural?
            Addiction is an undesirable side effect in itself.

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
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              #9

              An issue here as well, although I understand the feds and provincial authorities are closing the doors on it through regulation:

              https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7044806

              Podcast:

              https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/209-front-burner/episode/16023736-zyn-zonnic-and-the-nicotine-pouch-craze

              Elbows up!

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              • George KG George K

                Hook 'em while they're young.

                (too lazy to look)

                Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                taiwan_girl
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                #10

                @George-K said in zyn?:

                Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

                Dont know if it is because of nicotine, but quite a few people who chew tobacco or put it in their lip end up getting cancer there or having their jaw and/or cheeks/lips eroded.

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  #11

                  https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/27/business/zyn-nicotine-philip-morris-tobacco/index.html

                  Governments around the world have tried to kill the tobacco industry. Zyn, the brand of flavored oral nicotine pouches that comes in small, round containers resembling breath mints, is its latest strategy.

                  While it’s ultimately owned by tobacco giant Philip Morris International, Zyn is a tobacco-free product. White pouches similar in size to a piece of chewing gum send more nicotine than what’s in a cigarette right into the bloodstream. Unlike traditional chewing tobacco, you don’t have to chew the pouches or spit the build-up of tobacco juice.

                  and

                  In 2023, Zyn pouch shipments in the United States hit 385 million cans, a 62% increase from the year prior, according to Phillip Morris International, Zyn’s parent company. Zyn shipments this year are expected to grow another 35%.

                  After a surge in demand for Zyn that led to shortages of the pouches — fans called it the “Zynpocalypse” —Phillip Morris International announced a $600 million investment last week in a new manufacturing facility in Aurora, Colorado, to increase production.

                  and

                  A dependency on nicotine causes cravings and withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, headaches, dizziness and fatigue. Researchers have found long-term usage may be connected with heart disease, vascular disease, reproductive disturbances and more, according to the National Cancer Institute. Nicotine does not cause cancer or lung disease, according to the FDA.

                  Philip Morris International, which split from Phillip Morris USA, does not sell cigarettes in the United States. It said Zyn is not intended or sold as a smoking cessation product.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                    As far as I can remember, the only benefit it gave me was stopping the nicotine craving, but that's not exactly a benefit.

                    These fucking tobacco companies are assholes. If we want to talk about reparations, they'd be a bloody good place to start.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                      As far as I can remember, the only benefit it gave me was stopping the nicotine craving, but that's not exactly a benefit.

                      These fucking tobacco companies are assholes. If we want to talk about reparations, they'd be a bloody good place to start.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                      What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                      Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                      It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                      He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                        What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                        Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                        It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                        He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        @Copper said in zyn?:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                        What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                        Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                        It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                        He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

                        So you're saying that a hidden benefit of chewing tobacco is that it kills baseball players?

                        That's a bit harsh, even for me.

                        I was only joking

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                          What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                          Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                          It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                          He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

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                          @Copper said in zyn?:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                          What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                          Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                          It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                          He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

                          Didn't hurt that he tended to use a lighter, shorter bat. Not a lot of homers, but very quick bat speed...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            https://www.wired.com/story/tech-bros-are-all-in-on-zyn/

                            ENTREPRENEUR GARRETT CAMPBELL has a 6-mg “cool mint” Zyn tucked under his lip at all times during his mammoth 15-hour workdays, aside from when he is eating.

                            “I was always very against nicotine,” says the software company founder. The 26-year-old saw his peers using nicotine pouches at college, when they first emerged as a potential productivity-boosting hack, and considered it a “degenerate thing to do.”

                            But then all of his fellow founders started fueling themselves with nicotine pouches, of which the Philip Morris International–owned Zyn is the market leader. The company distributed 794 million cans in the US in the last financial year, a 37 percent increase over the previous year. Now, Campbell says “every single one” of his friends that runs a company does so with a nicotine pouch in their mouth.

                            Tech workers are increasingly attacking their marathon workdays like “racehorses” dosed with significant quantities of purportedly performance-maximizing nicotine, with each 6-mg pouch containing the nicotine of several cigarettes. Stripped of the smoke, smell, and stigma of cigarettes and vapes, nicotine pouches are being quietly rebranded in Silicon Valley as a clean, nootropic stimulant rather than a dirty habit.

                            and

                            Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson launched his own brand, ALP, short for American Lip Pillow, in 2024. “Nicotine’s super important,” the ex-smoker told podcaster Theo Von in December, embodying a plump Marlboro Man for the smoke-free age. “This country’s gotten far sadder and less healthy since it was discouraged, and it's coming back and it shows: People are just happier.”

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