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  • bachophileB Offline
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    bachophile
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    #1

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/12/opinion/children-nicotine-zyn-social-media.html

    never fucking heard of it...

    im glad im not a teenager these days

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #2

      Be grateful you’re not the parent of one now either.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Do you know what a Zynbabwe is? Or an upper-decky lip pillow? OK, here’s an easier one — how about just Zyn?

        If you are scratching your head, don’t feel bad: Almost no adult I have spoken to has had any idea either. This is despite the fact that the nicotine pouch Zyn is a jewel in the crown of a multibillion-dollar tobacco company. Haven’t heard of nicotine pouches to begin with? Neither had I. But when I ask my 19-year-old neighbor Ian if he knows what a Zynbabwe is, I get a shocked reply: “You know about Zyns?”

        You may have seen the tins that contain 15 little white rectangles that look like the desiccant packs labeled “Do Not Eat.” Zyns are filled with nicotine and are meant to be placed under your lip like tobacco dip. No spitting is required, so nicotine pouches are even less visible than vaping. Zyns come in two strengths in the United States, three and six milligrams. A single six-milligram pouch is a dose so high that first-time users on TikTok have said it caused them to vomit or pass out. And while Zyns are presented as a healthier, smoke-free alternative to cigarettes, they are still addictive, according to Robert Jackler, a professor emeritus at the Stanford University School of Medicine who has studied nicotine industry marketing. And dentists are already reporting seeing gum injuries in patients who use pouches.

        So how are kids learning about these little pouches? Greyson Imm, an 18-year-old high school student in Prairie Village, Kan., said he was 17 when Zyn videos started appearing on his TikTok feed. The videos multiplied through the spring, when they were appearing almost daily. “Nobody had heard about Zyn until very early 2023,” he said. Now, a “lot of high schoolers have been using Zyn. It’s really taken off, at least in our community.”

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          89th
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          Copy paste of article above. Was behind paywall.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            Anyway. Funny timing. A few days ago a buddy asked about Zyns and I said I had never heard of it.

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            • MikM Offline
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              This is evil.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • George KG Offline
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                Hook 'em while they're young.

                (too lazy to look)

                Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  Hook 'em while they're young.

                  (too lazy to look)

                  Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  #8

                  @George-K said in zyn?:

                  Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

                  Neural?
                  Addiction is an undesirable side effect in itself.

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    #9

                    An issue here as well, although I understand the feds and provincial authorities are closing the doors on it through regulation:

                    https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7044806

                    Podcast:

                    https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/209-front-burner/episode/16023736-zyn-zonnic-and-the-nicotine-pouch-craze

                    Elbows up!

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                    • George KG George K

                      Hook 'em while they're young.

                      (too lazy to look)

                      Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

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                      @George-K said in zyn?:

                      Other than cardiovascular, what are the negative long-term effects of nicotine?

                      Dont know if it is because of nicotine, but quite a few people who chew tobacco or put it in their lip end up getting cancer there or having their jaw and/or cheeks/lips eroded.

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                        https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/27/business/zyn-nicotine-philip-morris-tobacco/index.html

                        Governments around the world have tried to kill the tobacco industry. Zyn, the brand of flavored oral nicotine pouches that comes in small, round containers resembling breath mints, is its latest strategy.

                        While it’s ultimately owned by tobacco giant Philip Morris International, Zyn is a tobacco-free product. White pouches similar in size to a piece of chewing gum send more nicotine than what’s in a cigarette right into the bloodstream. Unlike traditional chewing tobacco, you don’t have to chew the pouches or spit the build-up of tobacco juice.

                        and

                        In 2023, Zyn pouch shipments in the United States hit 385 million cans, a 62% increase from the year prior, according to Phillip Morris International, Zyn’s parent company. Zyn shipments this year are expected to grow another 35%.

                        After a surge in demand for Zyn that led to shortages of the pouches — fans called it the “Zynpocalypse” —Phillip Morris International announced a $600 million investment last week in a new manufacturing facility in Aurora, Colorado, to increase production.

                        and

                        A dependency on nicotine causes cravings and withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, headaches, dizziness and fatigue. Researchers have found long-term usage may be connected with heart disease, vascular disease, reproductive disturbances and more, according to the National Cancer Institute. Nicotine does not cause cancer or lung disease, according to the FDA.

                        Philip Morris International, which split from Phillip Morris USA, does not sell cigarettes in the United States. It said Zyn is not intended or sold as a smoking cessation product.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                          As far as I can remember, the only benefit it gave me was stopping the nicotine craving, but that's not exactly a benefit.

                          These fucking tobacco companies are assholes. If we want to talk about reparations, they'd be a bloody good place to start.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                            As far as I can remember, the only benefit it gave me was stopping the nicotine craving, but that's not exactly a benefit.

                            These fucking tobacco companies are assholes. If we want to talk about reparations, they'd be a bloody good place to start.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                            What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                            Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                            It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                            He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                              What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                              Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                              It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                              He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @Copper said in zyn?:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                              What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                              Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                              It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                              He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

                              So you're saying that a hidden benefit of chewing tobacco is that it kills baseball players?

                              That's a bit harsh, even for me.

                              I was only joking

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                                What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                                Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                                It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                                He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                @Copper said in zyn?:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in zyn?:

                                What possible benefit can chewing nicotine bring?

                                Rod Carew, who won 7 batting titles, claimed that the wad of tobacco in his cheek helped him see the ball better.

                                It's tough to argue with 7 batting titles.

                                He later died from salivary gland (right next to the tobacco) cancer.

                                Didn't hurt that he tended to use a lighter, shorter bat. Not a lot of homers, but very quick bat speed...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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