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  • J jon-nyc
    4 Aug 2020, 13:31

    I would be totally against no debates.

    This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

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    George K
    wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 13:40 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

    I would be totally against no debates.

    This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

    Historically speaking that's a pretty recent "norm" particularly in the context of candidates' debates. A quick look shows that releasing taxes began with (cough) Nixon who, in 1974, released records from 1969 through 1972. Ford didn't release his. And since 1977 every president's taxes are audited by IRS.

    And, of course, don't forget that the Speaker of the House has refused as well, because "she's not running for President."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 13:52 last edited by jon-nyc 8 Apr 2020, 13:52
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      Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

      Basically the same age

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • J jon-nyc
        4 Aug 2020, 13:52

        Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

        Basically the same age

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        George K
        wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 13:55 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

        Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

        Basically the same age

        Presidential debates, more (1960?). Wilke challenged FDR in 1940.

        Other candidates, much older.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 14:05 last edited by
          #19

          There's a long of history of master debaters being elected to high office.

          I was only joking

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            Horace
            wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 14:49 last edited by
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            This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 15:36 last edited by
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              Biden's campaign manager's advice to Joe about debating Trump...

              Link to video

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                4 Aug 2020, 14:49

                This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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                89th
                wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 15:39 last edited by
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                @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                Haha excellent point!

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:21 last edited by
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                  If Biden cannot hold his own in debates he sure as hell can’t handle the presidency.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    89th
                    wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:24 last edited by
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                    Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:25 last edited by
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                      https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-excited-to-find-out-who-he-picked-for-vp/?utm_content=buffer1f12e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • 8 89th
                        4 Aug 2020, 16:24

                        Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:32 last edited by
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                        @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                        Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                        And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3
                          4 Aug 2020, 16:32

                          @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                          Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                          And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:36 last edited by
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                          @Catseye3 said in Scrap the debates:

                          @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                          Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                          And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

                          He can't think that fast.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 17:00 last edited by
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                            Which is better for Mr. Biden?

                            The possibility that he is impaired?

                            Or the certainty that he is impaired?

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 17:06 last edited by
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                              Good chance you’re all being punked by the Biden campaign just trying to lower expectations. Meanwhile he’s experimenting with different doses of adderall and equivalents to see what will make him sharp as hell for three hours when it most counts.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              • G George K
                                3 Aug 2020, 17:17

                                The more cynical might consider this totally not unexpected.

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/trump-biden-presidential-debates-2020.html

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                                George K
                                wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 19:56 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in Scrap the debates:

                                The more cynical might consider this totally not unexpected.

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/trump-biden-presidential-debates-2020.html

                                Heh...

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • H Horace
                                  4 Aug 2020, 14:49

                                  This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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                                  A Former User
                                  wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 20:41 last edited by
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                                  @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                                  This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                                  He would tell one grandious lie after another forcing his opponent to either ignore the lie or spend the whole debate debunking the lies. That man sucks the oxygen out of room when he opens his mouth.

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                                  • H Horace
                                    4 Aug 2020, 14:49

                                    This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 20:43 last edited by
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                                    @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                                    This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                                    Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      Loki
                                      wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 21:04 last edited by
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                                      Surprised Bill Kristol would trash precedent and tradition. Seems short sighted.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        12 Aug 2020, 20:43

                                        @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                                        This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                                        Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 21:14 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

                                        @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                                        This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                                        Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.

                                        Thank you for rephrasing that in a way that doesn't indicate that Trump is competent at anything. It's important to make sure we cleanse all conversation of such ideas.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 23:13 last edited by
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                                          Trump can hold his own with Biden when it comes to producing unintelligible word salad. He’s probably better at it in fact.

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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