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Scrap the debates

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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
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    #9

    It's never been a big issue with me, but I wouldn't miss them. They're so orchestrated and managed to the nth degree, everybody is so unperturbed. It's all theatrics . . . you don't really learn much that is useful.

    But there's the ratings, you dig. How much advertising do they attract?

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      This, by the way, isn’t written out of any concern that Donald Trump will prevail over Joe Biden in the debates

      I wonder if this is intentionally dishonest of the writer, or if she really has deluded herself into believing it. I also wonder if there's any real difference, human psychology being what it is.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Loki
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        If you asked the average American what was the biggest event in our elections don’t you think the number 1 answer would be the debates?

        Could you imagine a Democrat president on the ropes and the NYT carrying this op-Ed?

        If so isn’t the perspective of the author of this piece fear of the outcome?

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        • L Loki

          If you asked the average American what was the biggest event in our elections don’t you think the number 1 answer would be the debates?

          Could you imagine a Democrat president on the ropes and the NYT carrying this op-Ed?

          If so isn’t the perspective of the author of this piece fear of the outcome?

          Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
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          #12

          @Loki said in Scrap the debates:

          If you asked the average American what was the biggest event in our elections don’t you think the number 1 answer would be the debates?

          I'd think it was what happens on Election Night.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @Loki said in Scrap the debates:

            If you asked the average American what was the biggest event in our elections don’t you think the number 1 answer would be the debates?

            I'd think it was what happens on Election Night.

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            taiwan_girl
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            @Catseye3 😂

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #14

              Speaking of cynical...

              This is CNN:

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              This is also CNN:

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              Yeah, Joe Lockhart from the WRWEC.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #15

                I would be totally against no debates.

                This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I would be totally against no debates.

                  This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

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                  George K
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                  @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

                  I would be totally against no debates.

                  This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

                  Historically speaking that's a pretty recent "norm" particularly in the context of candidates' debates. A quick look shows that releasing taxes began with (cough) Nixon who, in 1974, released records from 1969 through 1972. Ford didn't release his. And since 1977 every president's taxes are audited by IRS.

                  And, of course, don't forget that the Speaker of the House has refused as well, because "she's not running for President."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #17

                    Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

                    Basically the same age

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

                      Basically the same age

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                      @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

                      Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

                      Basically the same age

                      Presidential debates, more (1960?). Wilke challenged FDR in 1940.

                      Other candidates, much older.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #19

                        There's a long of history of master debaters being elected to high office.

                        I was only joking

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
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                          This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Jolly
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                            Biden's campaign manager's advice to Joe about debating Trump...

                            Link to video

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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                              89th
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                              @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                              This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                              Haha excellent point!

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                If Biden cannot hold his own in debates he sure as hell can’t handle the presidency.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

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                                    https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-excited-to-find-out-who-he-picked-for-vp/?utm_content=buffer1f12e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

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                                      Catseye3
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                                      @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                                      Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                                      And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                        @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                                        Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                                        And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

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                                        @Catseye3 said in Scrap the debates:

                                        @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                                        Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                                        And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

                                        He can't think that fast.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Which is better for Mr. Biden?

                                          The possibility that he is impaired?

                                          Or the certainty that he is impaired?

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