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Scrap the debates

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    Catseye3
    wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 21:50 last edited by
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    It's never been a big issue with me, but I wouldn't miss them. They're so orchestrated and managed to the nth degree, everybody is so unperturbed. It's all theatrics . . . you don't really learn much that is useful.

    But there's the ratings, you dig. How much advertising do they attract?

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      Horace
      wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 21:53 last edited by
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      This, by the way, isn’t written out of any concern that Donald Trump will prevail over Joe Biden in the debates

      I wonder if this is intentionally dishonest of the writer, or if she really has deluded herself into believing it. I also wonder if there's any real difference, human psychology being what it is.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Loki
        wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 22:00 last edited by
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        If you asked the average American what was the biggest event in our elections don’t you think the number 1 answer would be the debates?

        Could you imagine a Democrat president on the ropes and the NYT carrying this op-Ed?

        If so isn’t the perspective of the author of this piece fear of the outcome?

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          3 Aug 2020, 22:00

          If you asked the average American what was the biggest event in our elections don’t you think the number 1 answer would be the debates?

          Could you imagine a Democrat president on the ropes and the NYT carrying this op-Ed?

          If so isn’t the perspective of the author of this piece fear of the outcome?

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 3 Aug 2020, 22:17 last edited by
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          @Loki said in Scrap the debates:

          If you asked the average American what was the biggest event in our elections don’t you think the number 1 answer would be the debates?

          I'd think it was what happens on Election Night.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • C Catseye3
            3 Aug 2020, 22:17

            @Loki said in Scrap the debates:

            If you asked the average American what was the biggest event in our elections don’t you think the number 1 answer would be the debates?

            I'd think it was what happens on Election Night.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 00:22 last edited by
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            @Catseye3 😂

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              George K
              wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 13:26 last edited by
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              Speaking of cynical...

              This is CNN:

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              This is also CNN:

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              Yeah, Joe Lockhart from the WRWEC.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 13:31 last edited by
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                I would be totally against no debates.

                This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  4 Aug 2020, 13:31

                  I would be totally against no debates.

                  This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 13:40 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

                  I would be totally against no debates.

                  This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

                  Historically speaking that's a pretty recent "norm" particularly in the context of candidates' debates. A quick look shows that releasing taxes began with (cough) Nixon who, in 1974, released records from 1969 through 1972. Ford didn't release his. And since 1977 every president's taxes are audited by IRS.

                  And, of course, don't forget that the Speaker of the House has refused as well, because "she's not running for President."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 13:52 last edited by jon-nyc 8 Apr 2020, 13:52
                    #17

                    Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

                    Basically the same age

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      4 Aug 2020, 13:52

                      Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

                      Basically the same age

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                      George K
                      wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 13:55 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

                      Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

                      Basically the same age

                      Presidential debates, more (1960?). Wilke challenged FDR in 1940.

                      Other candidates, much older.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 14:05 last edited by
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                        There's a long of history of master debaters being elected to high office.

                        I was only joking

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 14:49 last edited by
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                          This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 15:36 last edited by
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                            Biden's campaign manager's advice to Joe about debating Trump...

                            Link to video

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              4 Aug 2020, 14:49

                              This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 15:39 last edited by
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                              @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                              This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                              Haha excellent point!

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:21 last edited by
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                                If Biden cannot hold his own in debates he sure as hell can’t handle the presidency.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:24 last edited by
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                                  Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:25 last edited by
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                                    https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-excited-to-find-out-who-he-picked-for-vp/?utm_content=buffer1f12e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      4 Aug 2020, 16:24

                                      Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:32 last edited by
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                                      @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                                      Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                                      And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        4 Aug 2020, 16:32

                                        @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                                        Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                                        And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 16:36 last edited by
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                                        @Catseye3 said in Scrap the debates:

                                        @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                                        Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                                        And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

                                        He can't think that fast.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 17:00 last edited by
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                                          Which is better for Mr. Biden?

                                          The possibility that he is impaired?

                                          Or the certainty that he is impaired?

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