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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    I would be totally against no debates.

    This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      I would be totally against no debates.

      This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

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      @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

      I would be totally against no debates.

      This would be the moral equivalent of not releasing tax returns as far as respecting the norms of the process.

      Historically speaking that's a pretty recent "norm" particularly in the context of candidates' debates. A quick look shows that releasing taxes began with (cough) Nixon who, in 1974, released records from 1969 through 1972. Ford didn't release his. And since 1977 every president's taxes are audited by IRS.

      And, of course, don't forget that the Speaker of the House has refused as well, because "she's not running for President."

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #17

        Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

        Basically the same age

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

          Basically the same age

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          @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

          Debates predate that by what, 8 years?

          Basically the same age

          Presidential debates, more (1960?). Wilke challenged FDR in 1940.

          Other candidates, much older.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            There's a long of history of master debaters being elected to high office.

            I was only joking

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              Horace
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              This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Biden's campaign manager's advice to Joe about debating Trump...

                Link to video

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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                  @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                  This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                  Haha excellent point!

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                    If Biden cannot hold his own in debates he sure as hell can’t handle the presidency.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

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                        https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-excited-to-find-out-who-he-picked-for-vp/?utm_content=buffer1f12e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

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                          @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                          Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                          And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                            Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                            And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

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                            @Catseye3 said in Scrap the debates:

                            @89th said in Scrap the debates:

                            Trump should come on the stage at the first debate and ask Biden, “Can I call ya sleepy joe?”

                            And Biden can say, "Sure, and I'll call you Loser Trump."

                            He can't think that fast.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Which is better for Mr. Biden?

                              The possibility that he is impaired?

                              Or the certainty that he is impaired?

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
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                                Good chance you’re all being punked by the Biden campaign just trying to lower expectations. Meanwhile he’s experimenting with different doses of adderall and equivalents to see what will make him sharp as hell for three hours when it most counts.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  The more cynical might consider this totally not unexpected.

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/trump-biden-presidential-debates-2020.html

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                                  @George-K said in Scrap the debates:

                                  The more cynical might consider this totally not unexpected.

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/trump-biden-presidential-debates-2020.html

                                  Heh...

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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                                    @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                                    This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                                    He would tell one grandious lie after another forcing his opponent to either ignore the lie or spend the whole debate debunking the lies. That man sucks the oxygen out of room when he opens his mouth.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                                      This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                                      Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Surprised Bill Kristol would trash precedent and tradition. Seems short sighted.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                                          This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                                          Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

                                          @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                                          This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                                          Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.

                                          Thank you for rephrasing that in a way that doesn't indicate that Trump is competent at anything. It's important to make sure we cleanse all conversation of such ideas.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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