Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?
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Again, it’s the behavior of the IDF when the mistakes are made that further proves the moral and ethical difference.
I have to wonder how many times there have been fake surrender attempts?
The Brad
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no words to describe the angst everyone feels. war is hell.
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Again, it’s the behavior of the IDF when the mistakes are made that further proves the moral and ethical difference.
I have to wonder how many times there have been fake surrender attempts?
@LuFins-Dad said in Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?:
I have to wonder how many times there have been fake surrender attempts?
Seems plausible and even likely that this had been set up by Hamas to look like just another trick.
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Perhaps some indication of the thinking, though not an explanation.
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6-10 don’t seem to be anywhere near a causal chain for the killings. This guy was really set on 10.
It is ironic that most of the Palestinian deaths have as a “but for” cause at least one war crime committed by Hamas.
Now we have what might well be the first documented Israeli war crime and the victims are three Israeli hostages.
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Leave your emotions out of it. These are empirical questions.
I don’t believe there were such things as recognized war crimes in the 1860s, but had the post-WWII regime been in place then, certainly much that was done would have qualified.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Leave your emotions out of it. These are empirical questions.
I don’t believe there were such things as recognized war crimes in the 1860s, but had the post-WWII regime been in place then, certainly much that was done would have qualified.
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Leave your emotions out of it. These are empirical questions.
I don’t believe there were such things as recognized war crimes in the 1860s, but had the post-WWII regime been in place then, certainly much that was done would have qualified.
The Post WW2 construct is mostly fantasy. There are war crimes by the oodles committed every day on the African continent, in the hills of Afghanistan, the edge of the Gobi and pick most any conflict in South America.
I suspect on any given day in Korea, Vietnam, Chechnya, Nicaragua or countless other wars, somebody does something wrong to somebody else. Sometimes, it's on purpose. Sometimes, it's an accident.
It's a war.
Things to know about a war.
- It is a violent, dirty business.
- The ONLY way to win, is to break your opponent's will to fight or to eradicate your opponent as an entity.
- Man is not perfect. Soldiers have emotions, and will do things out of fear and anger. They will also do some very nasty things in the cause of self-preservation. And in revenge.
- Shit happens.
- He who wins, writes the history books.
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The Post WW2 construct is mostly fantasy. There are war crimes by the oodles committed every day on the African continent, in the hills of Afghanistan, the edge of the Gobi and pick most any conflict in South America.
I suspect on any given day in Korea, Vietnam, Chechnya, Nicaragua or countless other wars, somebody does something wrong to somebody else. Sometimes, it's on purpose. Sometimes, it's an accident.
It's a war.
Things to know about a war.
- It is a violent, dirty business.
- The ONLY way to win, is to break your opponent's will to fight or to eradicate your opponent as an entity.
- Man is not perfect. Soldiers have emotions, and will do things out of fear and anger. They will also do some very nasty things in the cause of self-preservation. And in revenge.
- Shit happens.
- He who wins, writes the history books.
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5 doesn’t appear to be true anymore.
@LuFins-Dad said in Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?:
5 doesn’t appear to be true anymore.
I think it will be eventually.
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Yes, watch out, now that the Confederate statues are gone, they'll come after the Union monuments next.
@Copper said in Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?:
Yes, watch out, now that the Confederate statues are gone, they'll come after the Union monuments next.
Almost.
The statue at the Confederate grave sites in Arlington is being removed.
You know, if Union soldiers were still alive today, I don't think that would happen...
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@Copper said in Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?:
Neither Lincoln nor Grant would let it happen.
Probably because there were no monuments to Confederate war heroes when they were alive.
My understanding is that most were erected during Jim Crow.
Elbows up!
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@Copper said in Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?:
Neither Lincoln nor Grant would let it happen.
Probably because there were no monuments to Confederate war heroes when they were alive.
My understanding is that most were erected during Jim Crow.
@Renauda said in Where’s the thread about the hostage friendly fire deaths?:
Probably because there were a no monuments to Confederate war heroes when they were alive.
No, because they were committed to reconciliation.
They were much bigger than the trash that surrounds these monuments now.
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In the 1880's, SCOTUS ruled that the U.S. government had illegally confiscated Arlington and remanded it back to the Lee family.
I guess if it were today, they could have had those damnyankees dug up and chunked in the road ditch.
But, in the spirit of reconciliation, they sold Arlington to the government.
