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Learning English is hard

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    Around here there's a town named Warwick. The way they pronounce it sets my teeth on edge every time I hear it. They actually say both 'w''s. There's no way they did that when they first named it.

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      Around here there's a town named Warwick. The way they pronounce it sets my teeth on edge every time I hear it. They actually say both 'w''s. There's no way they did that when they first named it.

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      George K
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Learning English is hard:

      Around here there's a town named Warwick. The way they pronounce it sets my teeth on edge every time I hear it. They actually say both 'w''s. There's no way they did that when they first named it.

      You guys sure do throw in a lot of unnecessary letters. I suppose it adds a certain colour to the language.

      I mean, Worcestershire. Gloucester...

      Now, pronounce ghoti.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Learning English is hard:

        Around here there's a town named Warwick. The way they pronounce it sets my teeth on edge every time I hear it. They actually say both 'w''s. There's no way they did that when they first named it.

        You guys sure do throw in a lot of unnecessary letters. I suppose it adds a certain colour to the language.

        I mean, Worcestershire. Gloucester...

        Now, pronounce ghoti.

        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
        #23

        @George-K said in Learning English is hard:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Learning English is hard:

        Around here there's a town named Warwick. The way they pronounce it sets my teeth on edge every time I hear it. They actually say both 'w''s. There's no way they did that when they first named it.

        You guys sure do throw in a lot of unnecessary letters. I suppose it adds a certain colour to the language.

        I mean, Worcestershire. Gloucester...

        I think it's more likely that we took out or replaced some of the letters, but not all. Worcestershire was derived from the middle-English Wyrcestreschire.

        My favourite town name is Cholmondeley in Cheshire, normally pronounced 'Chumley', but there's others - Leominster, near where my wife's father came from is pronounced 'Lemster' by the locals. I still get it wrong.

        I was only joking

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        • George KG George K

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Learning English is hard:

          Around here there's a town named Warwick. The way they pronounce it sets my teeth on edge every time I hear it. They actually say both 'w''s. There's no way they did that when they first named it.

          You guys sure do throw in a lot of unnecessary letters. I suppose it adds a certain colour to the language.

          I mean, Worcestershire. Gloucester...

          Now, pronounce ghoti.

          CopperC Offline
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          @George-K said in Learning English is hard:

          Now, pronounce ghoti.

          The Riddler used that in a comic book I remember from somewhere around the mid-60s. Batman figured it out right away.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            Every language has exceptions to its rules, and things you just have to know, which you can't derive from any rules.

            English is a rather simple language to learn, compared to most other (Western) languages.

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            @Klaus said in Learning English is hard:

            Every language has exceptions to its rules, and things you just have to know, which you can't derive from any rules.

            I'm not saying that English is unique because it has phonetic exceptions and other languages don't. I'm saying that even compared to other languages, English has more phonetic exceptions than many others.

            In part this is because other languages haven't been broken and rebuilt as many times as English has.

            English is a rather simple language to learn, compared to most other (Western) languages.

            Says the guy who first knew German before he learned English. It's not a coincidence you think that.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Klaus said in Learning English is hard:

              Every language has exceptions to its rules, and things you just have to know, which you can't derive from any rules.

              I'm not saying that English is unique because it has phonetic exceptions and other languages don't. I'm saying that even compared to other languages, English has more phonetic exceptions than many others.

              In part this is because other languages haven't been broken and rebuilt as many times as English has.

              English is a rather simple language to learn, compared to most other (Western) languages.

              Says the guy who first knew German before he learned English. It's not a coincidence you think that.

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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Learning English is hard:

              In part this is because other languages haven't been broken and rebuilt as many times as English has.

              I think you might be on to something. At least, I've noticed a lot of you chaps speak broken English.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Learning English is hard:

                In part this is because other languages haven't been broken and rebuilt as many times as English has.

                I think you might be on to something. At least, I've noticed a lot of you chaps speak broken English.

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Learning English is hard:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Learning English is hard:

                In part this is because other languages haven't been broken and rebuilt as many times as English has.

                I think you might be on to something. At least, I've noticed a lot of you chaps speak broken English.

                Ours is older, though. 🙂

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Learning English is hard:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Learning English is hard:

                  In part this is because other languages haven't been broken and rebuilt as many times as English has.

                  I think you might be on to something. At least, I've noticed a lot of you chaps speak broken English.

                  Ours is older, though. 🙂

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Learning English is hard:

                  Ours is older, though.

                  Like your leaders.

                  And no, that's not necessarily true where I come from. Plenty of people aren't speaking received pronunciation etc. up in't North.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Learning English is hard:

                    Ours is older, though.

                    Like your leaders.

                    And no, that's not necessarily true where I come from. Plenty of people aren't speaking received pronunciation etc. up in't North.

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Learning English is hard:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Learning English is hard:

                    Ours is older, though.

                    Like your leaders.

                    And no, that's not necessarily true where I come from. Plenty of people aren't speaking received pronunciation etc. up in't North.

                    We've had a reform, though. You all haven't.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Learning English is hard:

                      Ours is older, though.

                      Like your leaders.

                      And no, that's not necessarily true where I come from. Plenty of people aren't speaking received pronunciation etc. up in't North.

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                      Renauda
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                      #30

                      @Doctor-Phibes

                      And no, that's not necessarily true where I come from. Plenty of people aren't speaking received pronunciation etc. up in't North.

                      Ayup, thay’d be knowin’ nowt about ‘at.

                      Elbows up!

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