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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #23

    @Klaus

    It's the inside straight. Trump loses so big the GOP reels and fixes itself before the Democratic Party is completely taken over by the regressive left.

    I don't think it's likely, but sometimes hope is all we have.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • LarryL Larry

      All that said, I don't believe this country is stupid enough to elect Biden. Nor do I believe the polls that say he's ahead. I think he will get trounced so hard he won't know where he is... oh wait.... He already doesn't know where he is....

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      #24

      @Larry said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

      Nor do I believe the polls that say he's ahead.

      Trumps internal polling is almost certainly abysmal, hence this tweet.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • KlausK Klaus

        @jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

        I think we'll have to wait for 2024 to see that. Hopefully by then the GOP will have regained sanity.

        I guess that would also be what I'd hope for. Hope that Biden doesn't do too much damage (he will almost certainly do some damage) and that the GOP will press the reset button until 2024.

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        Larry
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        #25

        @Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

        @jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

        I think we'll have to wait for 2024 to see that. Hopefully by then the GOP will have regained sanity.

        I guess that would also be what I'd hope for. Hope that Biden doesn't do too much damage (he will almost certainly do some damage) and that the GOP will press the reset button until 2024.

        "Pressing the reset button" is another way of saying "go back to being democrat lite". We pressed the reset button 4 years ago.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Klaus

          It's the inside straight. Trump loses so big the GOP reels and fixes itself before the Democratic Party is completely taken over by the regressive left.

          I don't think it's likely, but sometimes hope is all we have.

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          #26

          @jon-nyc What's the chance of a divided government for the next 4 years? That would presumably be a kind of damage control.

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          • LarryL Larry

            @Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

            @jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

            I think we'll have to wait for 2024 to see that. Hopefully by then the GOP will have regained sanity.

            I guess that would also be what I'd hope for. Hope that Biden doesn't do too much damage (he will almost certainly do some damage) and that the GOP will press the reset button until 2024.

            "Pressing the reset button" is another way of saying "go back to being democrat lite". We pressed the reset button 4 years ago.

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            #27

            @Larry said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

            We pressed the reset button 4 years ago.

            Yeah, but 4 years ago they first screwed up the CPU and then pressed the reset button and hence got the Orange Screen of Death.

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              jon-nyc
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              #28

              @Klaus

              I think the Senate could go either way even with a Trump loss. But I haven't been paying too much attention.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Larry
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                What we need is to take the House away from the idiot democrats and the republicans to control both houses of Congress and the oval office.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #30

                  Seems unlikely.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • MikM Away
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                    What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

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                      @Mik said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                      What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                      That'd be a first.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • MikM Mik

                        What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

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                        #33

                        @Mik said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                        What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                        That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?

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                          Larry
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                          Yes. But that won't happen. It won't happen because the democrats don't give a damn about America, and half the republicans don't either.

                          But you're correct.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @Larry said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                            Nor do I believe the polls that say he's ahead.

                            Trumps internal polling is almost certainly abysmal, hence this tweet.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                            @Larry said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                            Nor do I believe the polls that say he's ahead.

                            Trumps internal polling is almost certainly abysmal, hence this tweet.

                            Nah, I think it's a pre-emptive strike.

                            There are problems with mail-in ballots and we all know it. They are extremely easy to manipulate and ballot harvest. They also lend themselves to an October Surprise, if it's done well, especially with a Biden-friendly media.

                            As for poll numbers...I think Trump is down about five, but it's not even Labor Day. And the more Biden has to campaign, the more his senility is expressed.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • KlausK Klaus

                              @Mik said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                              What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                              That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?

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                              @Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                              @Mik said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                              What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                              That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?

                              I have zero doubt that the left are fully convinced that they serve the people of the country.

                              One of the more insidious aspects of our learned righteousness is that compassion is for the least advantaged materially, and the bulk of the bell curve can go F itself. Entire societies can apparently be led by attaching the leash to the tail of the bell curve and shaming everybody for not devoting all their attention to it, hang the expense.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Klaus - yeah of course if any person had sufficient backing from the military they could take over.

                                I don't see that as a risk in 2020. The bigger risk is Trump-friendly state governments attempting to invalidate whole classes of votes, putting up a competing slate of electors, or just never sending any, in order to throw the election into the house.

                                (note that an election in the house probably goes to Trump, because it isn't a straight vote of representatives, it's a vote by state delegation)

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                @Klaus - yeah of course if any person had sufficient backing from the military they could take over.

                                I don't see that as a risk in 2020. The bigger risk is Trump-friendly state governments attempting to invalidate whole classes of votes, putting up a competing slate of electors, or just never sending any, in order to throw the election into the house.

                                It's weird how you fail to mention that some Democrat electors tried this in 2016 as a last ditch righteous attempt to keep Trump out of office.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                  @Mik said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                  What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                                  That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?

                                  I have zero doubt that the left are fully convinced that they serve the people of the country.

                                  One of the more insidious aspects of our learned righteousness is that compassion is for the least advantaged materially, and the bulk of the bell curve can go F itself. Entire societies can apparently be led by attaching the leash to the tail of the bell curve and shaming everybody for not devoting all their attention to it, hang the expense.

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                                  @Horace said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                  @Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                  @Mik said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                  What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                                  That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?

                                  I have zero doubt that the left are fully convinced that they serve the people of the country.

                                  One of the more insidious aspects of our learned righteousness is that compassion is for the least advantaged materially, and the bulk of the bell curve can go F itself. Entire societies can apparently be led by attaching the leash to the tail of the bell curve and shaming everybody for not devoting all their attention to it, hang the expense.

                                  Preach on, brother...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    If Mr. Biden wanted a delay due to racism, it would already be a done deal.

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      @Mik said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                      What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                                      That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?

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                                      @Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                      That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?

                                      "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H. L. Mencken

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        Biden is a centrist. The only question is his effectiveness and ability to lead.

                                        Even Obama who tried to push through some progressive ideas early on received the feedback of losing the House, The Senate and Governorships in that order. At the end of the day Obama looked pretty similar to Bill Clinton and the Republic did well enough.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                          @Mik said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                          What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                                          That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?

                                          I have zero doubt that the left are fully convinced that they serve the people of the country.

                                          One of the more insidious aspects of our learned righteousness is that compassion is for the least advantaged materially, and the bulk of the bell curve can go F itself. Entire societies can apparently be led by attaching the leash to the tail of the bell curve and shaming everybody for not devoting all their attention to it, hang the expense.

                                          MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
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                                          #42

                                          @Horace said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                          @Klaus said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                          @Mik said in Trump suggests election delay to counter voter fraud:

                                          What we need is for both sides to quit playing power politics and start serving the people of this country.

                                          That sounds good in theory, but what if the people have very diverging conceptions of how they want to be governed?

                                          I have zero doubt that the left are fully convinced that they serve the people of the country.

                                          One of the more insidious aspects of our learned righteousness is that compassion is for the least advantaged materially, and the bulk of the bell curve can go F itself. Entire societies can apparently be led by attaching the leash to the tail of the bell curve and shaming everybody for not devoting all their attention to it, hang the expense.

                                          Bingo. Horace wins the internet today.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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