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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:43 last edited by jon-nyc
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    @Rainman said in Should've invested in Kodak:

    Jon, do you really think Trump gives a shit about benefitting "one of his buddies" as the sole reason he makes a decision?

    Well, that was but one example I gave of how he might benefit himself.

    But do you really think Trump hasn’t given us ample reason to worry about him self-dealing? Or giving his own electoral interests too much weight in making policy decisions?

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • J jon-nyc
      29 Jul 2020, 00:53

      Am I the only one who was pleasantly surprised that this contract doesn’t benefit Trump personally in some obvious way?

      Like, it’s not awarded to one of his buddy’s shell companies. It’s not even a swing state.

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      Loki
      wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 02:57 last edited by jon-nyc
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      @jon-nyc said in Should've invested in Kodak:

      Am I the only one who was pleasantly surprised that this contract doesn’t benefit Trump personally in some obvious way?

      Like, it’s not awarded to one of his buddy’s shell companies. It’s not even a swing state.

      Have no idea what you just said.

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      • R Rainman
        29 Jul 2020, 01:37

        Interesting, Aqua!

        In audio the debate between digital and analog continues. I am one that finds a warmth in analog, whether vinyl recordings or tube amps. You didn't mention "warmth" but is that anywhere like what you are talking about in terms of the affective results between the formats?

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 03:33 last edited by
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        @Rainman said in Should've invested in Kodak:

        Interesting, Aqua!

        In audio the debate between digital and analog continues. I am one that finds a warmth in analog, whether vinyl recordings or tube amps. You didn't mention "warmth" but is that anywhere like what you are talking about in terms of the affective results between the formats?

        Post-processing cheats aside, yeah. Especially 35mm. (Not all film is in the form of 35mm of course, but that's the most popular.) I guess you could say that the grain in 35mm has a "warmth" to it. If used right, it can actually be a feature you'd seek out. In fact, many photo software packages allow you to simulate grain for this reason. Digital grain from your sensor, though? No, that looks like crap pretty much always. That's why they call it "noise" instead.

        Film has a lot of potential imperfections to it that add to its "warmth" or "authenticity" or "uniqueness"—something like that anyway—whereas digital gets a bad rap for being too clean, cold, and unexpressive. Which isn't true (it has a lot more to do with your understanding of the tools you choose to use), but, haters gonna hate. Digital can be very expressive in ways film can't be, but the two are more different in that respect than I think a lot of folks realize.

        I like film immensely but currently don't shoot with it. (It is what I learned on in high school, though.) I'd want to process it myself and even with a Paterson Tank, that would require a lifestyle change I'm not really ready for yet. 😁

        Please love yourself.

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          89th
          wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 13:56 last edited by
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          Not that I shoot with film, but I can also imagine it really makes you appreciate each shutter.... whereas when I take a pic with even my iPhone (or DSLR) I take like 20 pics and then pick the best one.

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          • 8 89th
            29 Jul 2020, 13:56

            Not that I shoot with film, but I can also imagine it really makes you appreciate each shutter.... whereas when I take a pic with even my iPhone (or DSLR) I take like 20 pics and then pick the best one.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 14:32 last edited by
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            @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

            Not that I shoot with film, but I can also imagine it really makes you appreciate each shutter.... whereas when I take a pic with even my iPhone (or DSLR) I take like 20 pics and then pick the best one.

            Defo. That's why John Free (who's a wonderful nutter, by the way) always claims that if you want to get better with photography, take fewer pictures. It's a pithy statement, but he's only referring to being deliberate with your shutter.

            Please love yourself.

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              89th
              wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 15:06 last edited by 89th
              #22

              Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

              2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

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              • 8 89th
                29 Jul 2020, 15:06

                Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 15:31 last edited by
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                @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                Maybe with all that extra bank they can bring back Kodachrome for shit's sake!!

                Please love yourself.

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                • 8 89th
                  29 Jul 2020, 15:06

                  Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                  2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 16:31 last edited by
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                  @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                  Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                  2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                  Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

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                  • T taiwan_girl
                    29 Jul 2020, 16:31

                    @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                    Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                    2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                    Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 16:46 last edited by
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                    @taiwan_girl said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                    @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                    Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                    2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                    Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

                    They're a shell of their former selves, but they never fully went away, and prior to this huge jump, they had incremental quarterly increases for the past year. Lot of people are getting back into film.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 17:12 last edited by
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                      I remember after they were starting to get their lunch eaten by digital one of their strategy folks talked about how they’d make up for it because Asia was behind the curve in take up of photography so they would grow there.

                      As if there was some iron law of nature that the Chinese needed to use film for a few decades before they could switch to digital.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        mark
                        wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 17:45 last edited by
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                        Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

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                        • M mark
                          29 Jul 2020, 17:45

                          Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 17:49 last edited by
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                          @mark said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                          Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

                          Generally speaking, the lenses are where the money's at, not necessarily the bodies.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            29 Jul 2020, 17:49

                            @mark said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                            Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

                            Generally speaking, the lenses are where the money's at, not necessarily the bodies.

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                            mark
                            wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 17:58 last edited by mark
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                            @mark said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                            Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

                            Generally speaking, the lenses are where the money's at, not necessarily the bodies.

                            Nikon is the only film SLR remaining. $2,500.00

                            https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/352116-USA/Nikon_1799_F6_35mm_SLR_Autofocus.html

                            Leica has a couple of rangfinders. $5,200.00

                            https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082912-REG/leica_10370_m_a_rangefinder_camera_body.html

                            and $5,300.00

                            https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/277979-USA/Leica_10301_MP_72_35mm_Rangefinder.html

                            I think a pro level, Vintage F2 will sell for a lot more than it was selling for, if not already, soon. 😁

                            A working, near mint, one owner, FE with motordrive, original 50mm f1.8 lens, will probably enjoy a similar increase in value.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 19:19 last edited by
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                              Check out keh.com for used prices. They have a Nikon F2 body in excellent condition going for $123.76.

                              Yours might be in a different situation, I dunno, but generally speaking, lenses hold their value, and bodies don't.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                29 Jul 2020, 16:31

                                @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                                Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                                2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                                Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

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                                89th
                                wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 01:33 last edited by
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                                @taiwan_girl said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                                @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                                Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                                2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                                Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

                                Yup still down. Just remarkable they’ve gone up 20x in a matter of 3 days. I’d be curious if anyone bought a large number of shares last week or over the weekend.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 01:35 last edited by 89th
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                                  Actually, they are up compared to every point available since 2013 except for a temporary spike in early 2014 that’s slightly higher than their current stock price.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 01:36 last edited by
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                                    🤣

                                    That's so awesome.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      30 Jul 2020, 01:33

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                                      @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                                      Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                                      2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                                      Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

                                      Yup still down. Just remarkable they’ve gone up 20x in a matter of 3 days. I’d be curious if anyone bought a large number of shares last week or over the weekend.

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                                      wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 01:39 last edited by
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                                      @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                                      I’d be curious if anyone bought a large number of shares last week or over the weekend.

                                      The CEO. LOL Just read something that he bought something like 50000 shares a week or two ago. He spent USD$100,000 and it is now much much higher.

                                      (But the article said that he has been buying shares consist over time, so this was not really unusual and they do not think anything was weird about it).

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