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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Am I the only one who was pleasantly surprised that this contract doesn’t benefit Trump personally in some obvious way?

    Like, it’s not awarded to one of his buddy’s shell companies. It’s not even a swing state.

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    @jon-nyc said in Should've invested in Kodak:

    Am I the only one who was pleasantly surprised that this contract doesn’t benefit Trump personally in some obvious way?

    Like, it’s not awarded to one of his buddy’s shell companies. It’s not even a swing state.

    Have no idea what you just said.

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    • RainmanR Rainman

      Interesting, Aqua!

      In audio the debate between digital and analog continues. I am one that finds a warmth in analog, whether vinyl recordings or tube amps. You didn't mention "warmth" but is that anywhere like what you are talking about in terms of the affective results between the formats?

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      @Rainman said in Should've invested in Kodak:

      Interesting, Aqua!

      In audio the debate between digital and analog continues. I am one that finds a warmth in analog, whether vinyl recordings or tube amps. You didn't mention "warmth" but is that anywhere like what you are talking about in terms of the affective results between the formats?

      Post-processing cheats aside, yeah. Especially 35mm. (Not all film is in the form of 35mm of course, but that's the most popular.) I guess you could say that the grain in 35mm has a "warmth" to it. If used right, it can actually be a feature you'd seek out. In fact, many photo software packages allow you to simulate grain for this reason. Digital grain from your sensor, though? No, that looks like crap pretty much always. That's why they call it "noise" instead.

      Film has a lot of potential imperfections to it that add to its "warmth" or "authenticity" or "uniqueness"—something like that anyway—whereas digital gets a bad rap for being too clean, cold, and unexpressive. Which isn't true (it has a lot more to do with your understanding of the tools you choose to use), but, haters gonna hate. Digital can be very expressive in ways film can't be, but the two are more different in that respect than I think a lot of folks realize.

      I like film immensely but currently don't shoot with it. (It is what I learned on in high school, though.) I'd want to process it myself and even with a Paterson Tank, that would require a lifestyle change I'm not really ready for yet. 😁

      Please love yourself.

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        Not that I shoot with film, but I can also imagine it really makes you appreciate each shutter.... whereas when I take a pic with even my iPhone (or DSLR) I take like 20 pics and then pick the best one.

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        • 89th8 89th

          Not that I shoot with film, but I can also imagine it really makes you appreciate each shutter.... whereas when I take a pic with even my iPhone (or DSLR) I take like 20 pics and then pick the best one.

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          @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

          Not that I shoot with film, but I can also imagine it really makes you appreciate each shutter.... whereas when I take a pic with even my iPhone (or DSLR) I take like 20 pics and then pick the best one.

          Defo. That's why John Free (who's a wonderful nutter, by the way) always claims that if you want to get better with photography, take fewer pictures. It's a pithy statement, but he's only referring to being deliberate with your shutter.

          Please love yourself.

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            Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

            2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

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            • 89th8 89th

              Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

              2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

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              @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

              Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

              2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

              Maybe with all that extra bank they can bring back Kodachrome for shit's sake!!

              Please love yourself.

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              • 89th8 89th

                Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

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                @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                  Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                  2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                  Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

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                  @taiwan_girl said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                  @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                  Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                  2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                  Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

                  They're a shell of their former selves, but they never fully went away, and prior to this huge jump, they had incremental quarterly increases for the past year. Lot of people are getting back into film.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    I remember after they were starting to get their lunch eaten by digital one of their strategy folks talked about how they’d make up for it because Asia was behind the curve in take up of photography so they would grow there.

                    As if there was some iron law of nature that the Chinese needed to use film for a few decades before they could switch to digital.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

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                      • markM mark

                        Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

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                        @mark said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                        Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

                        Generally speaking, the lenses are where the money's at, not necessarily the bodies.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @mark said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                          Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

                          Generally speaking, the lenses are where the money's at, not necessarily the bodies.

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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                          @mark said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                          Hmmm, maybe my Vintage Nikon F2 and FE are worth more than they were a couple of years ago?

                          Generally speaking, the lenses are where the money's at, not necessarily the bodies.

                          Nikon is the only film SLR remaining. $2,500.00

                          https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/352116-USA/Nikon_1799_F6_35mm_SLR_Autofocus.html

                          Leica has a couple of rangfinders. $5,200.00

                          https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082912-REG/leica_10370_m_a_rangefinder_camera_body.html

                          and $5,300.00

                          https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/277979-USA/Leica_10301_MP_72_35mm_Rangefinder.html

                          I think a pro level, Vintage F2 will sell for a lot more than it was selling for, if not already, soon. 😁

                          A working, near mint, one owner, FE with motordrive, original 50mm f1.8 lens, will probably enjoy a similar increase in value.

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                            Check out keh.com for used prices. They have a Nikon F2 body in excellent condition going for $123.76.

                            Yours might be in a different situation, I dunno, but generally speaking, lenses hold their value, and bodies don't.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                              Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                              2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                              Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

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                              @taiwan_girl said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                              @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                              Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                              2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                              Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

                              Yup still down. Just remarkable they’ve gone up 20x in a matter of 3 days. I’d be curious if anyone bought a large number of shares last week or over the weekend.

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                                Actually, they are up compared to every point available since 2013 except for a temporary spike in early 2014 that’s slightly higher than their current stock price.

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                                  🤣

                                  That's so awesome.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                                    @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                                    Back to the topic, Kodak shares are up like 2,000% in the last 3 days, including another 300% today. Bananas.

                                    2,000%. Keep in mind a 10% return in a year is a decent year.

                                    Aren't they still down from their high level from years ago? Have not they been decreasing for a number of years? LOL

                                    Yup still down. Just remarkable they’ve gone up 20x in a matter of 3 days. I’d be curious if anyone bought a large number of shares last week or over the weekend.

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                                    @89th said in Should've invested in Kodak:

                                    I’d be curious if anyone bought a large number of shares last week or over the weekend.

                                    The CEO. LOL Just read something that he bought something like 50000 shares a week or two ago. He spent USD$100,000 and it is now much much higher.

                                    (But the article said that he has been buying shares consist over time, so this was not really unusual and they do not think anything was weird about it).

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