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What about the hostages?

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #1

    Random thoughts…

    As the screws tighten due to the blockade, what happens to the hostages? It’s hard to imagine them getting fed well when the population is starving. What will be the Israeli public reaction to a kidnapped child crying about their hunger on social media?

    I wonder if the US and/or Israel has spy satellite footage that shows where the hostages are? I would think at least in some cases they do. When do rescue attempts start?

    Any chance Hamas negotiates the release of the EU citizens and maybe some other nationalities (eg the Chinese) sooner rather than later?

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      Where does rescuing the hostages fall in terms of priority? Is that the first priority? Or is preventing future attacks the primary priority?

      The Brad

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        #3

        I’m sure they’re both priorities but one is more time critical.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          #4

          Israel laid the water pipes into Gaza. Thousand and thousands of miles of pipe. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-lays-fourth-largest-yet-water-pipeline-to-gaza/

          Hamas dug up much of it to build rockets…

          Link to video

          They would rather their own people not have adequate water in order to make weapons to kill Jews. Do you honestly believe that the hostages will fare well even if food and supplies are coming in? For that matter, do you think the supplies will even go to the people? Or will it go to those oh so brave Hamas Freedom Fighters to stay strong for the fight?

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            #5

            Of course I don’t think the hostages will fare well. I’m speculating on the specific ways their captors will extract propaganda value from them.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • MikM Offline
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              I think the best chance for getting them back alive is to fight hard and brutally enough that Hamas sees the possibility for their own extinction. Lightening up won’t do it.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                Does extinction matter to martyrs?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  If they’re culturally programmed to want to die for the cause, it doesn’t make them pathological. Just programmed. Humans can be whatever they’re raised to be.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    It's the rank and file that want to be martyrs. I'd be you didn't see any of the leaders paragliding in. They want the power. Extinction will matter to them.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Of course I don’t think the hostages will fare well. I’m speculating on the specific ways their captors will extract propaganda value from them.

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                      #10

                      @jon-nyc said in What about the hostages?:

                      Of course I don’t think the hostages will fare well. I’m speculating on the specific ways their captors will extract propaganda value from them.

                      https://www.yahoo.com/news/hamas-vows-broadcast-hostage-executions-133558309.html

                      Hamas militants have vowed to broadcast their executions of Israeli hostages on the internet. Recent history shows there's virtually nothing tech companies can do to prevent that from happening.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Let them then push the lot of them into the sea.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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