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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #21

    From your opening post:

    So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

    Your own words: “young person”

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...

      alt text

      Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

      AxtremusA Offline
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      #22

      @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

      Nephew dated a couple of girls on that dance line. I wouldn't exactly call them skanks...
      …
      Don't think he asked them about their views on abortion.

      You confuse anecdotes with statistics.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        From your opening post:

        So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

        Your own words: “young person”

        JollyJ Offline
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        #23

        @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

        From your opening post:

        So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

        Your own words: “young person”

        Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by Axtremus
          #24

          Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

          • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
          • safety/violent crime rates: normalized by population size, Baton Rouge’s violent crime rate is nearly three times that of San Diego’s (just in case you don’t think young people don’t look at crime rates, their parents/elders will talk them out of moving to high crime areas)

          Most likely there are good reasons for young people to prefer Baton Rouge to San Diego. Maybe you just haven’t been selling it right?

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

            • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
            • safety/violent crime rates: normalized by population size, Baton Rouge’s violent crime rate is nearly three times that of San Diego’s (just in case you don’t think young people don’t look at crime rates, their parents/elders will talk them out of moving to high crime areas)

            Most likely there are good reasons for young people to prefer Baton Rouge to San Diego. Maybe you just haven’t been selling it right?

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            #25

            @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

            Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:

            • sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)

            And there are roughly 800,000 people living in the Baton Rouge metropolitan area vs 3,900,000 in San Diego Metro. The number of jobs per resident is in weighted towards Baton Rouge.

            The Brad

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

              From your opening post:

              So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

              Your own words: “young person”

              Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              Aqua Letifer
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              #26

              @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

              @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

              From your opening post:

              So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

              Your own words: “young person”

              Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

              Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                From your opening post:

                So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                Your own words: “young person”

                Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #27

                @Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                From your opening post:

                So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                Your own words: “young person”

                Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                  @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                  @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                  From your opening post:

                  So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                  Your own words: “young person”

                  Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                  Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                  Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #28

                  @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                  @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                  @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                  From your opening post:

                  So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                  Your own words: “young person”

                  Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.

                  Why talk to him? He has no social skills.

                  Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?

                  It would be a very bad idea to keep the act up in that environment.

                  And yeah, it's all dunking. Which, sure, people are people, we've been doing that to and with each other for decades now. But when it's all you do? Really?

                  I don't see the point in taking a conversation in good faith when the other person does anything but.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #29

                    At this point, I bow to superior wisdom.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Recent grad: I can make $50/hr in San Diego

                      Old fart: Yeah, but average rent for a 1BR apartment in San Diego is about $1400/month more than Baton Rouge. You can make $32/hr in Baton Rouge, and utilities and gas are cheaper.

                      Recent grad: Besides, California girls are hawt!

                      Old fart: Lad, have you looked at some of the girls down here?

                      So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #30

                      @Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                      So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?

                      Agree. Sometimes recent graduates just look at salary, without looking at all the other things such as how far their money will go.

                      A lot of government agencies, like MOFA, if you are posted internationally, will give you a increase if you are going to higher priced city.

                      I think it was Facebook(?) when working remote was a things, talked about scaling salary based on where you worked. If you were paying someone USD$200K to work at HQ in Silcon Valley, and then they were working remote in Dickinson ND, do they really need USD$200K?

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                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                        #31

                        https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                        Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                        New York
                        Chicago
                        Dallas
                        Los Angeles
                        Atlanta
                        Boston
                        San Francisco
                        Austin, Texas
                        Washington D.C.
                        Houston
                        Seattle
                        Denver
                        Philadelphia
                        San Diego
                        Miami

                        NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                          Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                          New York
                          Chicago
                          Dallas
                          Los Angeles
                          Atlanta
                          Boston
                          San Francisco
                          Austin, Texas
                          Washington D.C.
                          Houston
                          Seattle
                          Denver
                          Philadelphia
                          San Diego
                          Miami

                          NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #32

                          @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                          Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                          New York
                          Chicago
                          Dallas
                          Los Angeles
                          Atlanta
                          Boston
                          San Francisco
                          Austin, Texas
                          Washington D.C.
                          Houston
                          Seattle
                          Denver
                          Philadelphia
                          San Diego
                          Miami

                          NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

                          Shocking! And totally surprising! I never would have thought that New York (with twice the population of Chicago) would get twice as many job applications. That is completely unpredictable and goes against any kind of common sense that I would have thought of…

                          The Brad

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                          • HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
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                            Ax you should compile these sorts of counter intuitive statistics into a freakonomics style book.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                              https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html

                              Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
                              New York
                              Chicago
                              Dallas
                              Los Angeles
                              Atlanta
                              Boston
                              San Francisco
                              Austin, Texas
                              Washington D.C.
                              Houston
                              Seattle
                              Denver
                              Philadelphia
                              San Diego
                              Miami

                              NYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.

                              Shocking! And totally surprising! I never would have thought that New York (with twice the population of Chicago) would get twice as many job applications. That is completely unpredictable and goes against any kind of common sense that I would have thought of…

                              AxtremusA Offline
                              AxtremusA Offline
                              Axtremus
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                              @LuFins-Dad

                              Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

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                                @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

                                Excellent. The book is taking shape.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

                                  Excellent. The book is taking shape.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  #36

                                  @Horace said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                  @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

                                  Excellent. The book is taking shape.

                                  It'll be a best-seller because Ax is a serious and objective thinker and everyone's going to be beyond impressed by that.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    Copper
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                                    >
                                    25 U.S. Cities with the Most College Students
                                    
                                    City	Number of Colleges	Total Enrollment	City Population
                                    New York, NY	82	290,216	19,354,922
                                    Chicago, IL	73	219,981	8,675,982
                                    Slt Lk City,UT	18	200,797	1,098,400
                                    Los Angeles, CA	54	183,219	12,815,475
                                    Houston, TX	64	175,189	5,446,468
                                    Tempe, AZ	14	171,860	185,038
                                    San Diego, CA	35	160,576	3,210,314
                                    Minneapolis, MN	14	153,597	2,926,757
                                    Boston, MA	30	150,338	4,637,537
                                    Phoenix, AZ	34	149,726	4,081,849
                                    Phila, PA	37	149,664	5,637,884
                                    Atlanta, GA	37	133,648	5,228,750
                                    Indian, IN	29	131,644	1,564,699
                                    Miami, FL	44	131,272	6,381,966
                                    Orlando, FL	16	130,254	1,776,841
                                    San Antonio, TX	46	124,702	2,002,530
                                    Manchester, NH	8	110,024	160,742
                                    Austin, TX	27	105,525	1,638,716
                                    Sacramento, CA	23	105,249	1,854,698
                                    Columbus, OH	24	104,783	1,528,314
                                    Baltimore, MD	24	100,393	2,170,504
                                    Saint Louis, MO	23	99,607	2,078,283
                                    Washington, DC	24	98,399	5,289,420
                                    Denver, CO	26	92,189	2,787,266
                                    San Fran, CA	21	90,493	3,603,761
                                    
                                    
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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @LuFins-Dad

                                      Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      @Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:

                                      @LuFins-Dad

                                      Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.

                                      Again! Brilliance in the simplicity! Hoisted on my own petard, so to speak. Calling out my univariate argument by utilizing a univariate fallacy! You are absolutely correct. My argument did not take into account areas that are shedding businesses, jobs, and population. Of course, we’ll ignore the fact that total job applications ≠ recent college grad applications…

                                      Still, I’m surprised there aren’t more recent grads applying for jobs in LA. You can get abortions there, after all. Cheap ones…Yet Austin getting a ton of applicants but you can’t get an abortion there. That’s very weird.

                                      The Brad

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