It ain't just what you're making...
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Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:
- sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
- safety/violent crime rates: normalized by population size, Baton Rouge’s violent crime rate is nearly three times that of San Diego’s (just in case you don’t think young people don’t look at crime rates, their parents/elders will talk them out of moving to high crime areas)
Most likely there are good reasons for young people to prefer Baton Rouge to San Diego. Maybe you just haven’t been selling it right?
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
Other factors besides salaries/wages that might influence where a young person move to:
- sheer number of jobs: <450k jobs in Baton Rouge, >1.5 million jobs in San Diego (salaries/wages don’t matter if there is no job)
And there are roughly 800,000 people living in the Baton Rouge metropolitan area vs 3,900,000 in San Diego Metro. The number of jobs per resident is in weighted towards Baton Rouge.
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@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
From your opening post:
So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?
Your own words: “young person”
Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.
@Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
From your opening post:
So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?
Your own words: “young person”
Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.
Why talk to him? He has no social skills.
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@Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
From your opening post:
So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?
Your own words: “young person”
Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.
Why talk to him? He has no social skills.
@Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
From your opening post:
So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?
Your own words: “young person”
Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.
Why talk to him? He has no social skills.
Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
From your opening post:
So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?
Your own words: “young person”
Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.
Why talk to him? He has no social skills.
Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?
@Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Aqua-Letifer said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
From your opening post:
So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?
Your own words: “young person”
Lad, you dumb shit. There is a line where you cross from being a pedantic twit to being an obnoxious ass. I can assure you, you didn't get your butt stomped enough as a young man. Or you've watched so much porn, it has rewired your brain.
Why talk to him? He has no social skills.
Surely, there must be something there. I suspect much of this is an act, while he tries to stifle his chuckles at the rubes. Surely. Could you imagine this behavior in most any local bar, where average guys drop in to have a beer or two and argue about sports, women or bitch about their job?
It would be a very bad idea to keep the act up in that environment.
And yeah, it's all dunking. Which, sure, people are people, we've been doing that to and with each other for decades now. But when it's all you do? Really?
I don't see the point in taking a conversation in good faith when the other person does anything but.
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Recent grad: I can make $50/hr in San Diego
Old fart: Yeah, but average rent for a 1BR apartment in San Diego is about $1400/month more than Baton Rouge. You can make $32/hr in Baton Rouge, and utilities and gas are cheaper.
Recent grad: Besides, California girls are hawt!
Old fart: Lad, have you looked at some of the girls down here?
So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?
@Jolly said in It ain't just what you're making...:
So, at one point does it make sense for a young person to move across the country?
Agree. Sometimes recent graduates just look at salary, without looking at all the other things such as how far their money will go.
A lot of government agencies, like MOFA, if you are posted internationally, will give you a increase if you are going to higher priced city.
I think it was Facebook(?) when working remote was a things, talked about scaling salary based on where you worked. If you were paying someone USD$200K to work at HQ in Silcon Valley, and then they were working remote in Dickinson ND, do they really need USD$200K?
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html
Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
New York
Chicago
Dallas
Los Angeles
Atlanta
Boston
San Francisco
Austin, Texas
Washington D.C.
Houston
Seattle
Denver
Philadelphia
San Diego
MiamiNYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html
Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
New York
Chicago
Dallas
Los Angeles
Atlanta
Boston
San Francisco
Austin, Texas
Washington D.C.
Houston
Seattle
Denver
Philadelphia
San Diego
MiamiNYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html
Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
New York
Chicago
Dallas
Los Angeles
Atlanta
Boston
San Francisco
Austin, Texas
Washington D.C.
Houston
Seattle
Denver
Philadelphia
San Diego
MiamiNYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.
Shocking! And totally surprising! I never would have thought that New York (with twice the population of Chicago) would get twice as many job applications. That is completely unpredictable and goes against any kind of common sense that I would have thought of…
The Brad
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@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/this-is-the-no-1-city-where-young-people-want-to-work-most.html
Here are the top 15 cities where today's college grads are applying for jobs most:
New York
Chicago
Dallas
Los Angeles
Atlanta
Boston
San Francisco
Austin, Texas
Washington D.C.
Houston
Seattle
Denver
Philadelphia
San Diego
MiamiNYC gets twice as many job applications from new college grads than the second place Chicago.
Shocking! And totally surprising! I never would have thought that New York (with twice the population of Chicago) would get twice as many job applications. That is completely unpredictable and goes against any kind of common sense that I would have thought of…
Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.
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Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.
Excellent. The book is taking shape.
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@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.
Excellent. The book is taking shape.
@Horace said in It ain't just what you're making...:
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.
Excellent. The book is taking shape.
It'll be a best-seller because Ax is a serious and objective thinker and everyone's going to be beyond impressed by that.
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> 25 U.S. Cities with the Most College Students City Number of Colleges Total Enrollment City Population New York, NY 82 290,216 19,354,922 Chicago, IL 73 219,981 8,675,982 Slt Lk City,UT 18 200,797 1,098,400 Los Angeles, CA 54 183,219 12,815,475 Houston, TX 64 175,189 5,446,468 Tempe, AZ 14 171,860 185,038 San Diego, CA 35 160,576 3,210,314 Minneapolis, MN 14 153,597 2,926,757 Boston, MA 30 150,338 4,637,537 Phoenix, AZ 34 149,726 4,081,849 Phila, PA 37 149,664 5,637,884 Atlanta, GA 37 133,648 5,228,750 Indian, IN 29 131,644 1,564,699 Miami, FL 44 131,272 6,381,966 Orlando, FL 16 130,254 1,776,841 San Antonio, TX 46 124,702 2,002,530 Manchester, NH 8 110,024 160,742 Austin, TX 27 105,525 1,638,716 Sacramento, CA 23 105,249 1,854,698 Columbus, OH 24 104,783 1,528,314 Baltimore, MD 24 100,393 2,170,504 Saint Louis, MO 23 99,607 2,078,283 Washington, DC 24 98,399 5,289,420 Denver, CO 26 92,189 2,787,266 San Fran, CA 21 90,493 3,603,761 -
Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.
@Axtremus said in It ain't just what you're making...:
Los Angeles’ population is 145% that of Chicago’s, yet Los Angeles gets fewer job applications from new college graduates than Chicago does. Population size and number of job applications from new college graduates are not linearly correlated.
Again! Brilliance in the simplicity! Hoisted on my own petard, so to speak. Calling out my univariate argument by utilizing a univariate fallacy! You are absolutely correct. My argument did not take into account areas that are shedding businesses, jobs, and population. Of course, we’ll ignore the fact that total job applications ≠ recent college grad applications…
Still, I’m surprised there aren’t more recent grads applying for jobs in LA. You can get abortions there, after all. Cheap ones…Yet Austin getting a ton of applicants but you can’t get an abortion there. That’s very weird.
