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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 29 Nov 2023, 01:50 last edited by
    #853

    Interesting graphic from NYT.

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    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      89th
      wrote on 29 Nov 2023, 17:36 last edited by
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      Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

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        George K
        wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 23:04 last edited by
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          29 Nov 2023, 17:36

          Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 23:29 last edited by
          #856

          @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

          Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

          Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            2 Dec 2023, 23:29

            @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

            Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

            Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

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            Horace
            wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 23:51 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

            @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

            Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

            Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

            Why does Israel do this? What's in it for them, given the horrible optics?

            Education is extremely important.

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              Mik
              wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 23:54 last edited by
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              Good question.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                George K
                wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 18:17 last edited by
                #859

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 19:07 last edited by
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                  Ok between Zalensky and now Israeli leaders getting the appellation, we can safely say “Nazi” now means “someone I really don’t like”.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    3 Dec 2023, 19:07

                    Ok between Zalensky and now Israeli leaders getting the appellation, we can safely say “Nazi” now means “someone I really don’t like”.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 19:50 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                    Zalensky and now Israeli leaders

                    Yeah, Jews as Nazis.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 20:08 last edited by
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                      I’m old enough to remember when the comparison was made right here in America.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 4 Dec 2023, 15:28 last edited by
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                        "In response..."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 4 Dec 2023, 16:41 last edited by
                          #864

                          Maybe it was a golf ball

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 4 Dec 2023, 18:29 last edited by
                            #865

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              George K
                              wrote on 5 Dec 2023, 13:28 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 5 Dec 2023, 14:07 last edited by
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                                https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-investigates-possible-trading-knowledge-ahead-oct-7-hamas-attack-2023-12-04/

                                Israeli authorities are investigating claims by U.S. researchers that some investors may have known in advance of a Hamas plan to attack Israel on Oct. 7 and used that information to profit from Israeli securities.

                                Research by law professors Robert Jackson Jr from New York University and Joshua Mitts of Columbia University found significant short-selling of shares leading up to the attacks, which triggered a war nearly two months old.

                                "Days before the attack, traders appeared to anticipate the events to come," they wrote, citing short interest in the MSCI Israel Exchange Traded Fund (ETF) that "suddenly, and significantly, spiked" on Oct. 2 based on data from the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA).

                                "And just before the attack, short selling of Israeli securities on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange (TASE) increased dramatically," they wrote in their 66-page report.

                                In response, the TASE referred Reuters to the Israel Securities Authority, which said: "The matter is known to the authority and is under investigation by all the relevant parties."

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 7 Dec 2023, 14:02 last edited by
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                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    7 Dec 2023, 14:02

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 7 Dec 2023, 14:05 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc all kinds of "context" being added to that tweet.

                                    "These are civilians"
                                    "This is north Gaza, not Khan Younis"
                                    "PsyOp."

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 7 Dec 2023, 14:08 last edited by
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                                      Lots of shoes left behind

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                                        7 Dec 2023, 14:08

                                        Lots of shoes left behind

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 7 Dec 2023, 14:31 last edited by
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                                        @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        Lots of shoes left behind

                                        Readers added context:

                                        Many of the shoes were right shoes, and many of those right shoes were behind the left shoes.

                                        Community rating: The claim that left shoes were behind, is disinformation.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 7 Dec 2023, 14:50 last edited by
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                                          These are not POWs. They are solely responsible for the thousands of deaths of their own people. Is there really any reason to keep them around?

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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