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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #855

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • 89th8 89th

      Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

      jon-nycJ Offline
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      @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

      Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

      Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

        Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

        Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

        HoraceH Offline
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        @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

        @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

        Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

        Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

        Why does Israel do this? What's in it for them, given the horrible optics?

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #858

          Good question.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #859

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              Ok between Zalensky and now Israeli leaders getting the appellation, we can safely say “Nazi” now means “someone I really don’t like”.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Ok between Zalensky and now Israeli leaders getting the appellation, we can safely say “Nazi” now means “someone I really don’t like”.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                Zalensky and now Israeli leaders

                Yeah, Jews as Nazis.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
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                  I’m old enough to remember when the comparison was made right here in America.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #863

                    "In response..."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
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                      Maybe it was a golf ball

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
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                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-investigates-possible-trading-knowledge-ahead-oct-7-hamas-attack-2023-12-04/

                            Israeli authorities are investigating claims by U.S. researchers that some investors may have known in advance of a Hamas plan to attack Israel on Oct. 7 and used that information to profit from Israeli securities.

                            Research by law professors Robert Jackson Jr from New York University and Joshua Mitts of Columbia University found significant short-selling of shares leading up to the attacks, which triggered a war nearly two months old.

                            "Days before the attack, traders appeared to anticipate the events to come," they wrote, citing short interest in the MSCI Israel Exchange Traded Fund (ETF) that "suddenly, and significantly, spiked" on Oct. 2 based on data from the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA).

                            "And just before the attack, short selling of Israeli securities on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange (TASE) increased dramatically," they wrote in their 66-page report.

                            In response, the TASE referred Reuters to the Israel Securities Authority, which said: "The matter is known to the authority and is under investigation by all the relevant parties."

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                @jon-nyc all kinds of "context" being added to that tweet.

                                "These are civilians"
                                "This is north Gaza, not Khan Younis"
                                "PsyOp."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  Lots of shoes left behind

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    Lots of shoes left behind

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                                    @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                    Lots of shoes left behind

                                    Readers added context:

                                    Many of the shoes were right shoes, and many of those right shoes were behind the left shoes.

                                    Community rating: The claim that left shoes were behind, is disinformation.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      These are not POWs. They are solely responsible for the thousands of deaths of their own people. Is there really any reason to keep them around?

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        These are not POWs. They are solely responsible for the thousands of deaths of their own people. Is there really any reason to keep them around?

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        These are not POWs.

                                        https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1732873796908929454.html

                                        Since there has been a sudden burst of experts on the handling of prisoners of war, here is what I see from the photos of the @IDF and Hamas prisoners of war in Gaza.

                                        According to the Geneva Conventions prisoners of war may include the following:
                                        • Members of the armed forces
                                        • Volunteer militia, including resistance movements
                                        • Civilians accompanying the armed forces

                                        When prisoners surrender (some unofficial reports Hamas surrendered out of tunnels) or are captured, they are immediately searched. Many militaries have internal processes, in the U.S. military it is to search, silence, segregate, speed (to the rear for processing), & safeguard.

                                        In Israel and Gaza, combatants often have weapons and explosives (suicide vests and other) so a tactic of the @IDF is to have the prisoners remove their clothing down to their underwear from a distance to ensure they are not a threat to their captors or other prisoners.

                                        Once searched, prisoners of war are rushed to safe areas (safeguarded) for processing for intelligence and detainment. This includes collecting individual information so prisoner information may be submitted to the ICRC.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                          #874

                                          As soon as I saw the picture I figured it was due to suicide vests and self-carried IEDs.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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