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  • B bachophile
    27 Nov 2023, 18:14

    Bleak. Happy of course about the hostage release but still very post trauma and still understanding that there is still a lot of fighting ahead.

    In other news, Elon Musk dropped in for a visit.

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    George K
    wrote on 27 Nov 2023, 18:19 last edited by
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    @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    Elon Musk dropped in for a visit.

    And he said that Hamas must be eliminated.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 29 Nov 2023, 01:21 last edited by
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      Wasn't there a "cease-fire" on October 6?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 29 Nov 2023, 01:50 last edited by
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        Interesting graphic from NYT.

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        Only non-witches get due process.

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          89th
          wrote on 29 Nov 2023, 17:36 last edited by
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          Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

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            George K
            wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 23:04 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              29 Nov 2023, 17:36

              Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 23:29 last edited by
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              @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

              Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                2 Dec 2023, 23:29

                @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

                Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

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                Horace
                wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 23:51 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

                Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

                Why does Israel do this? What's in it for them, given the horrible optics?

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 2 Dec 2023, 23:54 last edited by
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                  Good question.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    George K
                    wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 18:17 last edited by
                    #859

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 19:07 last edited by
                      #860

                      Ok between Zalensky and now Israeli leaders getting the appellation, we can safely say “Nazi” now means “someone I really don’t like”.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        3 Dec 2023, 19:07

                        Ok between Zalensky and now Israeli leaders getting the appellation, we can safely say “Nazi” now means “someone I really don’t like”.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 19:50 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                        Zalensky and now Israeli leaders

                        Yeah, Jews as Nazis.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 20:08 last edited by
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                          I’m old enough to remember when the comparison was made right here in America.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 4 Dec 2023, 15:28 last edited by
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                            "In response..."

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 4 Dec 2023, 16:41 last edited by
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                              Maybe it was a golf ball

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 4 Dec 2023, 18:29 last edited by
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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 5 Dec 2023, 13:28 last edited by
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 5 Dec 2023, 14:07 last edited by
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                                    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-investigates-possible-trading-knowledge-ahead-oct-7-hamas-attack-2023-12-04/

                                    Israeli authorities are investigating claims by U.S. researchers that some investors may have known in advance of a Hamas plan to attack Israel on Oct. 7 and used that information to profit from Israeli securities.

                                    Research by law professors Robert Jackson Jr from New York University and Joshua Mitts of Columbia University found significant short-selling of shares leading up to the attacks, which triggered a war nearly two months old.

                                    "Days before the attack, traders appeared to anticipate the events to come," they wrote, citing short interest in the MSCI Israel Exchange Traded Fund (ETF) that "suddenly, and significantly, spiked" on Oct. 2 based on data from the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA).

                                    "And just before the attack, short selling of Israeli securities on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange (TASE) increased dramatically," they wrote in their 66-page report.

                                    In response, the TASE referred Reuters to the Israel Securities Authority, which said: "The matter is known to the authority and is under investigation by all the relevant parties."

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 7 Dec 2023, 14:02 last edited by
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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        7 Dec 2023, 14:02

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 7 Dec 2023, 14:05 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc all kinds of "context" being added to that tweet.

                                        "These are civilians"
                                        "This is north Gaza, not Khan Younis"
                                        "PsyOp."

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 7 Dec 2023, 14:08 last edited by
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                                          Lots of shoes left behind

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