Hamas attacks Israel

[Axtremus]

@LuFins-Dad said in Hamas attacks Israel:

@89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

I wonder how hard it is for Hamas to communicate/control their forces.

They seemed to communicate just fine on October 7th…

How long did it take them to communicate all that was needed prior to Oct. 7th to make it happen the way it did?

Is the communications infrastructure they used to communicate prior to Oct. 7th still functional or has that been disrupted since?

[George K]

[George K]

[George K]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/25/world/israel-hamas-hostages-gaza-war#a-disfigured-woman-whose-case-has-become-well-known-is-among-the-palestinians-released

[jon-nyc]

Seeing reports of an Israeli proposal to extend the ceasefire more days provided at least 10 hostages are released a day.

[jon-nyc]

Would be natural to see Hamas counter-propose a smaller number. Imagine the political pressure that could place on the Israeli government.

[jon-nyc]

Hamas replies:

“The Islamic Resistance Movement Hamas seeks to extend the truce after the 4-day period ends, through serious efforts to increase the number of those released from imprisonment as stipulated in the humanitarian cease-fire agreement,” the group said in a statement.

[George K]

Hay @bachophile !

What's the feeling over there lately?

[bachophile]

Bleak. Happy of course about the hostage release but still very post trauma and still understanding that there is still a lot of fighting ahead.

In other news, Elon Musk dropped in for a visit.

[George K]

@bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Elon Musk dropped in for a visit.

And he said that Hamas must be eliminated.

[George K]

Wasn't there a "cease-fire" on October 6?

[jon-nyc]

Interesting graphic from NYT.

[89th]

Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

[George K]

[jon-nyc]

@89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

@89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

Why does Israel do this? What's in it for them, given the horrible optics?

[Mik]

Good question.

[George K]

[jon-nyc]

Ok between Zalensky and now Israeli leaders getting the appellation, we can safely say “Nazi” now means “someone I really don’t like”.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Zalensky and now Israeli leaders

Yeah, Jews as Nazis.