Hamas attacks Israel

[Renauda]

@Mik

No kidding. In a normal war situation a temporary cease fire would also include a withdrawal of belligerent forces to mutually agreed upon lines until the hour of expiration. The hope is to mitigate the chances that the cease will be broken.

No such lines exist or can exist in this conflict. The IDF and Hamas both occupy the same scattered rubble piles. This is a cease fire resting on a hair trigger that once breached cannot be recovered.

[Mik]

It's window dressing for Israel in the world. "See? We TOLD you Hamas could not be trusted".

Sadly they should never have been forced into this by the spineless West.

[Renauda]

True but there’s also a tremendous pressure inside Israel to get hostages home by means other than military force. Bibi’s governing coalition is very fragile.

[George K]

Here's one of the "children" that are being released by Israel.

https://www-mako-co-il.translate.goog/news-israel/2023_q4/Article-6baf0eb01a6fb81027.htm?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

[jon-nyc]

[Horace]

[Renauda]

[LuFins Dad]

@Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

This has an ice cube's chance in hell of being upheld.

It’s not meant to. Israel has been pretty open about their intentions as soon as the exchanges take place. They are upfront about it…

Plus, who wants to bet that the Palestinian criminals being released are tagged in some way?

[George K]

[89th]

I wonder how hard it is for Hamas to communicate/control their forces.

[George K]

@89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

I wonder how hard it is for Hamas to communicate/control their forces.

In an area of about 6 square miles, it shouldn't be too hard

[Rainman]

Interesting gay town name at 7:00.
And they're Muslim. Go figure, huh?

[jon-nyc]

Imagine how it must feel to be a parent of a hostage, unsure whether your kid will be in the 50 or not.

[LuFins Dad]

@89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

I wonder how hard it is for Hamas to communicate/control their forces.

They seemed to communicate just fine on October 7th…

[Axtremus]

@LuFins-Dad said in Hamas attacks Israel:

@89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

I wonder how hard it is for Hamas to communicate/control their forces.

They seemed to communicate just fine on October 7th…

How long did it take them to communicate all that was needed prior to Oct. 7th to make it happen the way it did?

Is the communications infrastructure they used to communicate prior to Oct. 7th still functional or has that been disrupted since?

[George K]

[George K]

[George K]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/25/world/israel-hamas-hostages-gaza-war#a-disfigured-woman-whose-case-has-become-well-known-is-among-the-palestinians-released

[jon-nyc]

Seeing reports of an Israeli proposal to extend the ceasefire more days provided at least 10 hostages are released a day.

[jon-nyc]

Would be natural to see Hamas counter-propose a smaller number. Imagine the political pressure that could place on the Israeli government.