Hamas attacks Israel

[Doctor Phibes]

@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Yes, but, only the kids who actually experience it. My parents are from war-torn countries. I have baggage, but not that kind. Same can be said of @Doctor-Phibes and others here.

I don't think you can really describe my parents upbringing as war-torn. My dad lived through the London blitz, but that was nothing compared to what happened to those living in continental Europe, particularly in the east.

If I have any baggage it's self-inflicted

[Axtremus]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-says-gaza-hospitals-must-be-protected-2023-11-14/

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/people-trapped-inside-gazas-al-shifa-planning-bury-dead-bodies-2023-11-14/

Gazans trapped in Al-Shifa hospital dig mass grave to bury the dead.

[jon-nyc]

@Axtremus
A horrific monument to Hamas’s war crimes.

[jon-nyc]

[George K]

@jon-nyc it's going to be a mess.

Regardless of how "good" the outcome is, it will be condemned.

[Mik]

None of which belies it’s necessity.

[George K]

[Jolly]

Don't put terrorist offices in hospitals.

[George K]

[George K]

[George K]

Justin Castreaux:

Bibi:

[Renauda]

The Dauphin Trudeau, like Macron, is quite prepared to surrender. To be expected from a perennial lightweight in foreign policy matters. He will not remain around much longer on the political landscape.

But if you think Trudeau is bad, you should hear the gibberish that falls out of the mouth of his Minister of Foreign Affairs, Melanie Joly. As a friend of mine in Ottawa says, “she never fails to underwhelm. I have no idea how she got into law school let alone graduate from it.”

[89th]

Bibi is right:

While Israel is doing everything to keep civilians out of harm’s way, Hamas is doing everything to keep them in harm’s way.

It's essentially that simple, if you add on Israel's right and duty to defend and protect her citizens. It sucks, but the only other solution is some sort of international coalition to go in and weed Hamas out, hold them accountable, and install a better government. Odds of that happening?

[George K]

[Jolly]

Of course.

[Mik]

FAFO

[Mik]

Butt hen see my comment about Gazan complicity in the White Staffers thread.

[George K]

[jon-nyc]

[Renauda]

Just remember that it was the Kremlin that controlled the messaging (among other things) on Syria at that time. The progressive West gave it a pass because it was led to believe that 1) US involvement in the conflict was neo-con imperialism and 2), go back to point 1 and realise that for the most part it’s just Arabs killing other Arabs, so there’s no reason to be too concerned.