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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #608

    The whole world is trying to stop IDF from going after the very people who brought this misery to Gaza. In my view, if you want to halt the ground invasion, the Gazans need to hand over all Hamas leadership and every other soldier they can find.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #609

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #610

        I wonder what strategic purpose that announcement serves.

        You were warned.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #611

          Motivation.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #612

            I was thinking it was more motivated by domestic politics. There must be a faction that is worried that, by delaying so much, he's getting 'soft' and beginning to worry about outside voices.

            You were warned.

            George KG 1 Reply Last reply
            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I was thinking it was more motivated by domestic politics. There must be a faction that is worried that, by delaying so much, he's getting 'soft' and beginning to worry about outside voices.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #613

              @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              by delaying so much

              WSJ is saying that the delay is at the White House's request - so that the US can position assets to protect troops elsewhere.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                by delaying so much

                WSJ is saying that the delay is at the White House's request - so that the US can position assets to protect troops elsewhere.

                CopperC Online
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                Copper
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                #614

                @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                to protect troops elsewhere

                US troops?

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #615

                  That's as of today. A couple days ago it was 'White House requests delay for negotiations over hostages and supplies'. Before that there was delay but no stated reason. Ever since 10/10 or so various reports said it was 'imminent'.

                  Obviously I have no idea what's going on, what's realistic and not, etc. But neither does the average Israeli citizen, Hence my thought that there must be some wondering if he's getting soft.

                  You were warned.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    #616

                    It's the carrier groups, I think. One is tasked with making sure the Iranians are good lads. The other is going to keep an eye on Hezbollah. That's around 130 planes total on the carriers and who knows how many missiles on the other ships

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I wonder what strategic purpose that announcement serves.

                      AxtremusA Away
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                      Axtremus
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                      #617

                      @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                      I wonder what strategic purpose that announcement serves.

                      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/245061 :man-shrugging:

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #618

                        224

                        You were warned.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by Jolly
                          #619

                          Sadly, expendable. Time to go wreck Hamas. And I would do it while putting as few IDF at risk as possible.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            You were warned.

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                            • 89th8 Offline
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                              89th
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                              I see the US has started bombing Iranian-back sites in Syria in retaliation/defense of the dozen attacks against US bases recently. Gonna head to bed soon, probably not WW3 until China enters the chat.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                I see the US has started bombing Iranian-back sites in Syria in retaliation/defense of the dozen attacks against US bases recently. Gonna head to bed soon, probably not WW3 until China enters the chat.

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                                Renauda
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                                @89th

                                Syria is one of Putin’s sandboxes.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  George K
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                                  Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1717601858695393550.html

                                  Russia hosted a Hamas delegation today

                                  Here is what we know about the meeting

                                  The meeting has likely been planned since October 7

                                  Once it was clear that at least 6 of the hostages were Russian citizens, Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov called for a meeting with Hamas in Qatar.

                                  Vladimir Putin's comments warning of the need to stop the Gaza War and Russia's overall position were "highly valued" by the Hamas delegation

                                  But Dmitry Peskov was clear to distance Putin from the meeting, he said it was a Russian Foreign Ministry track project.

                                  Mousa Abu Marzouk led the delegation

                                  Marzouk faced criminal charges in the US and while he has superficially discussed negotiations with Israel, he sees a Lebanon or Syria-style truce as desirable

                                  A "hudna" that will reheat. Similar to founder Sheik Yassin's views.

                                  So while Marzouk was the deputy chairman of the Hamas political bureau from 1997-2014 before current leader Ismail Haniyeh took his mantle, he is by not much more moderate than the Hamas mainstream

                                  Russia's meeting is not really about peace in Gaza.

                                  Israel has urged Russia to expel Hamas, so this will sour ties further

                                  But Marzouk engaged with Bogdanov in Qatar, Iranian officials recently and now Russia again, the meeting complements Russia-Iran dialogue on Gaza.

                                  Qatar remains the primary diplomatic venue for hostage releases and Israel has even been publicly forced to acknowledge Qatar's role

                                  But Russia is trying to play a secondary role, at least in liberating its own citizens and others (some reports highlight non-Russians).

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    Brave Sir Robin...

                                    Link to video

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • 89th8 Offline
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                                      89th
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                                      #625

                                      The reporter is then immediately beheaded.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Brave Sir Robin...

                                        Link to video

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
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                                        #626

                                        @George-K

                                        I saw this on the BBC last night.

                                        Hoisted by his own petard.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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