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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    I was thinking it was more motivated by domestic politics. There must be a faction that is worried that, by delaying so much, he's getting 'soft' and beginning to worry about outside voices.

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    George K
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    @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    by delaying so much

    WSJ is saying that the delay is at the White House's request - so that the US can position assets to protect troops elsewhere.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

      by delaying so much

      WSJ is saying that the delay is at the White House's request - so that the US can position assets to protect troops elsewhere.

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      @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

      to protect troops elsewhere

      US troops?

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        That's as of today. A couple days ago it was 'White House requests delay for negotiations over hostages and supplies'. Before that there was delay but no stated reason. Ever since 10/10 or so various reports said it was 'imminent'.

        Obviously I have no idea what's going on, what's realistic and not, etc. But neither does the average Israeli citizen, Hence my thought that there must be some wondering if he's getting soft.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          It's the carrier groups, I think. One is tasked with making sure the Iranians are good lads. The other is going to keep an eye on Hezbollah. That's around 130 planes total on the carriers and who knows how many missiles on the other ships

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I wonder what strategic purpose that announcement serves.

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            @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

            I wonder what strategic purpose that announcement serves.

            https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/245061 :man-shrugging:

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              224

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                #619

                Sadly, expendable. Time to go wreck Hamas. And I would do it while putting as few IDF at risk as possible.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    I see the US has started bombing Iranian-back sites in Syria in retaliation/defense of the dozen attacks against US bases recently. Gonna head to bed soon, probably not WW3 until China enters the chat.

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      I see the US has started bombing Iranian-back sites in Syria in retaliation/defense of the dozen attacks against US bases recently. Gonna head to bed soon, probably not WW3 until China enters the chat.

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                      @89th

                      Syria is one of Putin’s sandboxes.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1717601858695393550.html

                        Russia hosted a Hamas delegation today

                        Here is what we know about the meeting

                        The meeting has likely been planned since October 7

                        Once it was clear that at least 6 of the hostages were Russian citizens, Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov called for a meeting with Hamas in Qatar.

                        Vladimir Putin's comments warning of the need to stop the Gaza War and Russia's overall position were "highly valued" by the Hamas delegation

                        But Dmitry Peskov was clear to distance Putin from the meeting, he said it was a Russian Foreign Ministry track project.

                        Mousa Abu Marzouk led the delegation

                        Marzouk faced criminal charges in the US and while he has superficially discussed negotiations with Israel, he sees a Lebanon or Syria-style truce as desirable

                        A "hudna" that will reheat. Similar to founder Sheik Yassin's views.

                        So while Marzouk was the deputy chairman of the Hamas political bureau from 1997-2014 before current leader Ismail Haniyeh took his mantle, he is by not much more moderate than the Hamas mainstream

                        Russia's meeting is not really about peace in Gaza.

                        Israel has urged Russia to expel Hamas, so this will sour ties further

                        But Marzouk engaged with Bogdanov in Qatar, Iranian officials recently and now Russia again, the meeting complements Russia-Iran dialogue on Gaza.

                        Qatar remains the primary diplomatic venue for hostage releases and Israel has even been publicly forced to acknowledge Qatar's role

                        But Russia is trying to play a secondary role, at least in liberating its own citizens and others (some reports highlight non-Russians).

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Brave Sir Robin...

                          Link to video

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            The reporter is then immediately beheaded.

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                            • George KG George K

                              Brave Sir Robin...

                              Link to video

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                              @George-K

                              I saw this on the BBC last night.

                              Hoisted by his own petard.

                              Elbows up!

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Care?

                                  Neither should the West.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Horace
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                                    Whenever those tunnels are mentioned, I imagine how many people died digging them. Dirty Jobs should have done an episode about Hamas tunnel diggers.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        Whenever those tunnels are mentioned, I imagine how many people died digging them. Dirty Jobs should have done an episode about Hamas tunnel diggers.

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                                        @Horace said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        Whenever those tunnels are mentioned, I imagine how many people died digging them. Dirty Jobs should have done an episode about Hamas tunnel diggers.

                                        They desperately need OSHA.

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                                        • George KG George K

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                                          @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                          Level it.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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