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    Renauda
    wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 22:27 last edited by Renauda
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    Reminiscent of the bed springs and frame the Red Army welded to their tank turrets to deflect and neutralize panzerfaust charges during the Battle for Berlin in ‘45:

    https://legionmagazine.com/israel-defence-forces-take-lessons-from-ukraine-war/

    Elbows up!

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      Mik
      wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 22:57 last edited by
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      The whole world is trying to stop IDF from going after the very people who brought this misery to Gaza. In my view, if you want to halt the ground invasion, the Gazans need to hand over all Hamas leadership and every other soldier they can find.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        George K
        wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 23:51 last edited by
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 23:53 last edited by
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          I wonder what strategic purpose that announcement serves.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Mik
            wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 00:21 last edited by
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            Motivation.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 00:32 last edited by jon-nyc
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              I was thinking it was more motivated by domestic politics. There must be a faction that is worried that, by delaying so much, he's getting 'soft' and beginning to worry about outside voices.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • J jon-nyc
                26 Oct 2023, 00:32

                I was thinking it was more motivated by domestic politics. There must be a faction that is worried that, by delaying so much, he's getting 'soft' and beginning to worry about outside voices.

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                George K
                wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 00:44 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                by delaying so much

                WSJ is saying that the delay is at the White House's request - so that the US can position assets to protect troops elsewhere.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  26 Oct 2023, 00:44

                  @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                  by delaying so much

                  WSJ is saying that the delay is at the White House's request - so that the US can position assets to protect troops elsewhere.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 00:47 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                  to protect troops elsewhere

                  US troops?

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 00:48 last edited by
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                    That's as of today. A couple days ago it was 'White House requests delay for negotiations over hostages and supplies'. Before that there was delay but no stated reason. Ever since 10/10 or so various reports said it was 'imminent'.

                    Obviously I have no idea what's going on, what's realistic and not, etc. But neither does the average Israeli citizen, Hence my thought that there must be some wondering if he's getting soft.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 01:34 last edited by
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                      It's the carrier groups, I think. One is tasked with making sure the Iranians are good lads. The other is going to keep an eye on Hezbollah. That's around 130 planes total on the carriers and who knows how many missiles on the other ships

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        25 Oct 2023, 23:53

                        I wonder what strategic purpose that announcement serves.

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 01:36 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                        I wonder what strategic purpose that announcement serves.

                        https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/245061 :man-shrugging:

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 09:50 last edited by
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                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 12:15 last edited by Jolly
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                            Sadly, expendable. Time to go wreck Hamas. And I would do it while putting as few IDF at risk as possible.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 17:31 last edited by
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                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 27 Oct 2023, 03:05 last edited by
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                                I see the US has started bombing Iranian-back sites in Syria in retaliation/defense of the dozen attacks against US bases recently. Gonna head to bed soon, probably not WW3 until China enters the chat.

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                                  27 Oct 2023, 03:05

                                  I see the US has started bombing Iranian-back sites in Syria in retaliation/defense of the dozen attacks against US bases recently. Gonna head to bed soon, probably not WW3 until China enters the chat.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 27 Oct 2023, 04:08 last edited by
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                                  @89th

                                  Syria is one of Putin’s sandboxes.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 27 Oct 2023, 12:18 last edited by
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                                    Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1717601858695393550.html

                                    Russia hosted a Hamas delegation today

                                    Here is what we know about the meeting

                                    The meeting has likely been planned since October 7

                                    Once it was clear that at least 6 of the hostages were Russian citizens, Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov called for a meeting with Hamas in Qatar.

                                    Vladimir Putin's comments warning of the need to stop the Gaza War and Russia's overall position were "highly valued" by the Hamas delegation

                                    But Dmitry Peskov was clear to distance Putin from the meeting, he said it was a Russian Foreign Ministry track project.

                                    Mousa Abu Marzouk led the delegation

                                    Marzouk faced criminal charges in the US and while he has superficially discussed negotiations with Israel, he sees a Lebanon or Syria-style truce as desirable

                                    A "hudna" that will reheat. Similar to founder Sheik Yassin's views.

                                    So while Marzouk was the deputy chairman of the Hamas political bureau from 1997-2014 before current leader Ismail Haniyeh took his mantle, he is by not much more moderate than the Hamas mainstream

                                    Russia's meeting is not really about peace in Gaza.

                                    Israel has urged Russia to expel Hamas, so this will sour ties further

                                    But Marzouk engaged with Bogdanov in Qatar, Iranian officials recently and now Russia again, the meeting complements Russia-Iran dialogue on Gaza.

                                    Qatar remains the primary diplomatic venue for hostage releases and Israel has even been publicly forced to acknowledge Qatar's role

                                    But Russia is trying to play a secondary role, at least in liberating its own citizens and others (some reports highlight non-Russians).

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 27 Oct 2023, 14:13 last edited by
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                                      Brave Sir Robin...

                                      Link to video

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 27 Oct 2023, 14:23 last edited by
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                                        The reporter is then immediately beheaded.

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                                          27 Oct 2023, 14:13

                                          Brave Sir Robin...

                                          Link to video

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 27 Oct 2023, 14:27 last edited by
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                                          @George-K

                                          I saw this on the BBC last night.

                                          Hoisted by his own petard.

                                          Elbows up!

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