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  • B bachophile
    18 Oct 2023, 14:07

    Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 14:52 last edited by
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    @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

    Please don’t misunderstand me. I am absolutely convinced in Israel’s moral standing in this conflict as well as the overarching issues. I am just stating that there seem to have been errors in Israel’s initial response, which opens up room for doubt among those that naturally are inclined to believe the Palestinian groups over Israel. To them, Biden’s statement is just further evidence of the illicit corruption and vile partnership between Israel and the US.

    Seeing the reactions by so many of the Palestinians in the US as well as the other Islamic communities, and their absolute assurance that the US is not only complicit, but fully evil and to be reviled, I have to wonder why they are here.

    The Brad

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      Mik
      wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 14:55 last edited by
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      The fog of war. Nothing more.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • B bachophile
        18 Oct 2023, 14:07

        Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 15:01 last edited by
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        @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

        Biden quoted here as saying his determination of responsibility comes from information given to him by the pentagon, and not necessarily Israeli data.

        As it should be for any POTUS. Biden is quite right in making that statement regardless how those cheering for Hamas take or twist it.

        Elbows up!

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          Mik
          wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 15:03 last edited by
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          Yep.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 16:15 last edited by
            #472

            https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/10/18/identifying-possible-crater-from-gaza-hospital-blast/

            Independent fact checker believes they have identified impact site, and details of the crater doesn’t match what one would expect from IDF munitions…

            I wonder if they can determine direction?

            The Brad

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              George K
              wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 16:24 last edited by
              #473

              https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-tries-to-back-up-claims-it-didnt-attack-gaza-hospital-a8cc3405?mod=djemalertNEWS

              The U.S. has collected “high confidence” signals intelligence showing that the explosion at a Gaza hospital compound on Tuesday was caused by the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, U.S. officials said, buttressing Israel’s contention that it wasn’t responsible for the blast.

              The U.S. assessment drew, in part, on communications intercepts and other intelligence gathered by the U.S., defense officials said.

              “Our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza,” White House National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said, adding that the U.S. continues to collect information on the incident.

              I wonder if these "squad" members will retract their Xeets.

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 18:28 last edited by
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                image.jpeg

                This photo is not at the hospital's location.

                Funny that.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 18 Oct 2023, 19:00 last edited by
                  #475

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    bachophile
                    wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 20:08 last edited by
                    #476

                    https://abcnews.go.com/International/security-incident-involving-us-navy-destroyer-red-sea/story?id=104147141

                    never a dull moment

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                      89th
                      wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 20:12 last edited by
                      #477

                      You know the sailors on the ship were glad they finally got to shoot their weapons!

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 20:21 last edited by
                        #478

                        SM2 missiles

                        Mach 3

                        From a few years ago

                        Link to video

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                          George K
                          wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 20:28 last edited by
                          #479

                          OK - time to turn Yemen into glass as well.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • C Copper
                            19 Oct 2023, 20:21

                            SM2 missiles

                            Mach 3

                            From a few years ago

                            Link to video

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                            xenon
                            wrote on 19 Oct 2023, 21:05 last edited by
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                            @Copper said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                            SM2 missiles

                            Mach 3

                            From a few years ago

                            Link to video

                            Poor fish.

                            Awesome that they intercepted those - must have felt great.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 20 Oct 2023, 01:23 last edited by
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                              On Thursday Oct. 19, 2023.
                              Biden in a televised speech explaining why we need to support Israel and Ukraine.
                              Plans to ask Congress to appropriate $100B to help Ukraine and Israel.

                              Link to video

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 20 Oct 2023, 01:32 last edited by Mik
                                #482

                                It was a good speech. Not great, but presidential and appropriate to the situation.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  bachophile
                                  wrote on 20 Oct 2023, 07:43 last edited by
                                  #483

                                  Mercedes….Merkava

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 20 Oct 2023, 11:20 last edited by
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 20 Oct 2023, 12:14 last edited by
                                      #485

                                      I'm still very interested to see how the IDF will root out Hamas.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 20 Oct 2023, 17:36 last edited by
                                        #486

                                        Two Americans released.

                                        https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-releases-two-us-hostages-for-humanitarian-reasons-response-qatari-efforts-2023-10-20/

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          bachophile
                                          wrote on 20 Oct 2023, 18:01 last edited by bachophile
                                          #487

                                          Two from chicago. Mother and daughter.

                                          Same family has ten other people as hostages

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