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  • J jon-nyc
    10 Oct 2023, 16:46

    @Horace said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    @kluurs said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    Perhaps we should hope that the next species to rule the earth will find a less contentious way forward.

    Hasn't worked in the last 4 billions years. I see no reason why that should change.

    Also, when it comes to "innocents," there's a lot of hair-pulling about all the innocents in Gaza. No doubt, there are innocents suffering there, but, they, until now, at least, whole heartedly supported Hamas.

    Does a Palestinian born in Gaza have a meaningful choice of tribe?

    50% of the residents are children. Hamas was voted in in 18 years ago this coming January.

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    Horace
    wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 16:55 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    @Horace said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    @kluurs said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    Perhaps we should hope that the next species to rule the earth will find a less contentious way forward.

    Hasn't worked in the last 4 billions years. I see no reason why that should change.

    Also, when it comes to "innocents," there's a lot of hair-pulling about all the innocents in Gaza. No doubt, there are innocents suffering there, but, they, until now, at least, whole heartedly supported Hamas.

    Does a Palestinian born in Gaza have a meaningful choice of tribe?

    50% of the residents are children. Hamas was voted in in 18 years ago this coming January.

    So murderous conflict is cemented for another generation. And the existence of Israel is on a timer that ends when nukes are available to terrorists.

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 17:04 last edited by
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      I’ve always thought that. You could say the same thing about DC and New York.

      Unless technology can save us.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Jolly
        wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 17:47 last edited by
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        There is a solution. At least in some part.

        Think Carthage

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          George K
          wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 18:38 last edited by
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          Anybody have thoughts as to why Egypt hasn't opened the border to Gaza to let refugees in?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 19:13 last edited by
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            Originally it was to keep them as a thorn in the side of Israel, today it's a little of that plus the fact that they don't want to import a radicalized group like Hamas and 2MM dependents. They have enough of that to deal with already.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              bachophile
              wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 19:52 last edited by
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              just a short comment.
              i dont know if anyone heard Bidens statement today from the WH. worth a listen.
              people here were deeply moved.
              time for bed for me, i follow the thread but not always up to commenting, the depth of the tragedy is still sinking in

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 19:54 last edited by
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                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • J Jolly
                  10 Oct 2023, 17:47

                  There is a solution. At least in some part.

                  Think Carthage

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 20:10 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                  There is a solution. At least in some part.

                  Think Carthage

                  I think they want to eliminate Hamas, not commit genocide on 2MM people including a million children.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • J jon-nyc
                    10 Oct 2023, 20:10

                    @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                    There is a solution. At least in some part.

                    Think Carthage

                    I think they want to eliminate Hamas, not commit genocide on 2MM people including a million children.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 20:16 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                    I think they want to eliminate Hamas, not commit genocide on 2MM people including a million children.

                    Yes, but how do they do that without significant collateral damage?

                    I've read that half the population of Gaza is under age 17.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • B bachophile
                      10 Oct 2023, 19:52

                      just a short comment.
                      i dont know if anyone heard Bidens statement today from the WH. worth a listen.
                      people here were deeply moved.
                      time for bed for me, i follow the thread but not always up to commenting, the depth of the tragedy is still sinking in

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 20:42 last edited by
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                      @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                      just a short comment.
                      i dont know if anyone heard Bidens statement today from the WH. worth a listen.
                      people here were deeply moved.
                      time for bed for me, i follow the thread but not always up to commenting, the depth of the tragedy is still sinking in

                      I think this is it:

                      Link to video

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        10 Oct 2023, 20:10

                        @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                        There is a solution. At least in some part.

                        Think Carthage

                        I think they want to eliminate Hamas, not commit genocide on 2MM people including a million children.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 20:58 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                        @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                        There is a solution. At least in some part.

                        Think Carthage

                        I think they want to eliminate Hamas, not commit genocide on 2MM people including a million children.

                        You forgot sowing the ground with salt.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 21:03 last edited by
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                          The Brad

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                          • G George K
                            10 Oct 2023, 20:16

                            @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                            I think they want to eliminate Hamas, not commit genocide on 2MM people including a million children.

                            Yes, but how do they do that without significant collateral damage?

                            I've read that half the population of Gaza is under age 17.

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                            kluurs
                            wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 21:07 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                            I've read that half the population of Gaza is under age 17.

                            That's kind of what Rumsfeld spoke of when he was pondering the impact of our intervention in Afghanistan - i.e. sowing seeds of the next generation's combatants/martyrs for the cause.

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                            • J Jolly
                              10 Oct 2023, 20:58

                              @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                              @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                              There is a solution. At least in some part.

                              Think Carthage

                              I think they want to eliminate Hamas, not commit genocide on 2MM people including a million children.

                              You forgot sowing the ground with salt.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 21:13 last edited by
                              #239

                              @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                              @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                              @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                              There is a solution. At least in some part.

                              Think Carthage

                              I think they want to eliminate Hamas, not commit genocide on 2MM people including a million children.

                              You forgot sowing the ground with salt.

                              Seriously, if the problem could be solved by eradicating them, all the way down to the beasts in the field, I'd flick the switch. Israel can invade, they can kill thousands, they can turn the majority of buildings into rubble.

                              It won't fix this problem.

                              The only time a faction hasn't taken up the sword, is when that faction no longer exists.

                              Maybe the only solution is the Second Coming.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • B bachophile
                                10 Oct 2023, 19:52

                                just a short comment.
                                i dont know if anyone heard Bidens statement today from the WH. worth a listen.
                                people here were deeply moved.
                                time for bed for me, i follow the thread but not always up to commenting, the depth of the tragedy is still sinking in

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 21:47 last edited by
                                #240

                                @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                just a short comment.
                                i dont know if anyone heard Bidens statement today from the WH. worth a listen.
                                people here were deeply moved.
                                time for bed for me, i follow the thread but not always up to commenting, the depth of the tragedy is still sinking in

                                I haven’t been online much as I’m travelin with work, but I’m very relieved you’re unhurt. I hope you and your family can stay safe - I’ve been thinking of you throughout this awful tragedy.

                                I was only joking

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                                • J Jolly
                                  10 Oct 2023, 21:13

                                  @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  There is a solution. At least in some part.

                                  Think Carthage

                                  I think they want to eliminate Hamas, not commit genocide on 2MM people including a million children.

                                  You forgot sowing the ground with salt.

                                  Seriously, if the problem could be solved by eradicating them, all the way down to the beasts in the field, I'd flick the switch. Israel can invade, they can kill thousands, they can turn the majority of buildings into rubble.

                                  It won't fix this problem.

                                  The only time a faction hasn't taken up the sword, is when that faction no longer exists.

                                  Maybe the only solution is the Second Coming.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 21:55 last edited by jon-nyc 10 Oct 2023, 21:55
                                  #241

                                  @Jolly

                                  I wonder what percentage of Americans would favor a genocidal solution. And, of those, I wonder what percentage go to church on Sundays.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    10 Oct 2023, 21:55

                                    @Jolly

                                    I wonder what percentage of Americans would favor a genocidal solution. And, of those, I wonder what percentage go to church on Sundays.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 22:35 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                    I wonder what percentage of Americans would favor a genocidal solution. And, of those, I wonder what percentage go to church on Sundays.

                                    Offhand I can think of a few.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 22:58 last edited by
                                      #243

                                      I doubt any of them go to church on Sundays.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • K kluurs
                                        10 Oct 2023, 21:07

                                        @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        I've read that half the population of Gaza is under age 17.

                                        That's kind of what Rumsfeld spoke of when he was pondering the impact of our intervention in Afghanistan - i.e. sowing seeds of the next generation's combatants/martyrs for the cause.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 23:05 last edited by
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                                        @kluurs said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        I've read that half the population of Gaza is under age 17.

                                        That's kind of what Rumsfeld spoke of when he was pondering the impact of our intervention in Afghanistan - i.e. sowing seeds of the next generation's combatants/martyrs for the cause.

                                        Appeasement leads to the exact same outcome and some other crap besides.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          10 Oct 2023, 22:58

                                          I doubt any of them go to church on Sundays.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 23:06 last edited by Copper 10 Oct 2023, 23:07
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                          I doubt any of them go to church on Sundays.

                                          The ‘Squad’ returns: 5 faith facts about the House’s firebrand group

                                          The Squad — four women of faith — represents the often-overlooked side of religion and politicians.

                                          https://religionnews.com/2020/11/04/5-faith-facts-the-squad-omar-tlaib-a-pressley-aoc-muslim-catholic-baptist/

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