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    Horace
    wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 19:14 last edited by
    #174

    Anyway, it remains interesting the degree to which the civilians mounted a defense. I understand the music festival where much of the damage was done, was on the outskirts, and not immediately defensible.

    Education is extremely important.

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      bachophile
      wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 19:21 last edited by
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      All those towns in the south have sort of internal quasi army self defense units all armed with military weapons. Many of them were simply overwhelmed in numbers. In some places they succeeded in wiping out the marauders but obviously not everywhere. Kibbutz Beeri had 100 members dead. Some were families including children tied up and executed.
      There will be no mercy anymore. Gaza will be turned into rubble. And if hezbollah is so inclined, Beirut will also be turned to rubble.
      The American aircraft carrier is a message to Assad and Putin on whose side the USA stands.

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        blondie
        wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 20:18 last edited by
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        Oh Gosh, I hope you stay safe Bach and continue to lead your own troops at your hospital. Thanks for your updates.

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          George K
          wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 20:25 last edited by
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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            kluurs
            wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 20:33 last edited by
            #178

            @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

            I hope this post is false even as I fear its truth.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 20:36 last edited by
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              Okay. For every Israeli executed, five more buildings go down.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Renauda
                wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 20:38 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 20:39
                #180

                Make it an even ten more buildings.

                Elbows up!

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 20:40 last edited by
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                  Left up to me, I'd set off a neutron bomb in the middle of the strip, let the corpses pile up and rot, while cutting off all water, utilities and medical aid for thirty days. Let the plague take its course.

                  Wanna go medieval? Treat them like the Canaanites.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 20:45 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 20:49
                    #182

                    Wanna go medieval?

                    A modern day version of Edward the Black Prince’s tactic of Chevauchée would suffice. No need for WMD of any sort.

                    Elbows up!

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                      9 Oct 2023, 19:21

                      All those towns in the south have sort of internal quasi army self defense units all armed with military weapons. Many of them were simply overwhelmed in numbers. In some places they succeeded in wiping out the marauders but obviously not everywhere. Kibbutz Beeri had 100 members dead. Some were families including children tied up and executed.
                      There will be no mercy anymore. Gaza will be turned into rubble. And if hezbollah is so inclined, Beirut will also be turned to rubble.
                      The American aircraft carrier is a message to Assad and Putin on whose side the USA stands.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 20:48 last edited by
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                      @bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                      There will be no mercy anymore.

                      That makes sense to me.

                      Stay safe.

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                        Rainman
                        wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:08 last edited by
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                        I do not like that "no mercy anymore."
                        At least as a blanket statement.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:24 last edited by
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                          Israeli death toll up to 800. “At least” 150 hostages.

                          Jesus.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:26 last edited by
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                            On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.

                            It’s hard to listen to.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:30 last edited by
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                              From a BBC story in March

                              Israeli gun ownership is low at about 2% of the population. It compares to about 30% of the population owning a gun in the US.

                              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65110881

                              I'm surprised to see it that low.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:40 last edited by
                                #188

                                Israeli airspace at the moment

                                94306345-1630-43bd-bc90-56279ac405f0-image.png

                                Note the drone(?) in the south

                                No registration (just Israel), No Type

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by Copper 10 Sept 2023, 21:45
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                                  Interesting flight path on this Israeli military plane

                                  There are a few Israeli military planes up, they all look like this

                                  The few commercial flights leaving Tel Aviv look normal

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by
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                                    I don’t know how to interpret this as a war. Is there a way to target those responsible for the terrorist attack? Is turning Gaza into glass a close enough approximation?

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:49 last edited by
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                                      Isn't calling it a war something you do to establish new rules, not necessarily actions?

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:52 last edited by
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                                        I am sure parallels to Dresden and Hiroshima exist.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 22:58 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:16
                                          #193

                                          It’s a war, a war between Hamas and Israel in which Hamas fired the first shot in aggression. Israel is defending itself.

                                          Not sure if you’ll find many parallels, Hamas is not a sovereign state and nor is there a recognised Palestinian state. In that sense it’s sort of like a civil war (which it is not) and sort of like, what Putin has called, a special military operation, but a purely defensive and justifiable SMO and one with a clearly defined objective - the annihilation of Hamas as a criminal and para military terrorist organisation. But on second thought it’s not an SMO either.

                                          So for now let’s settle with; it’s a war. Much more to the point.

                                          Elbows up!

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