Hamas attacks Israel

[Horace]

Anyway, it remains interesting the degree to which the civilians mounted a defense. I understand the music festival where much of the damage was done, was on the outskirts, and not immediately defensible.

[bachophile]

All those towns in the south have sort of internal quasi army self defense units all armed with military weapons. Many of them were simply overwhelmed in numbers. In some places they succeeded in wiping out the marauders but obviously not everywhere. Kibbutz Beeri had 100 members dead. Some were families including children tied up and executed.
There will be no mercy anymore. Gaza will be turned into rubble. And if hezbollah is so inclined, Beirut will also be turned to rubble.
The American aircraft carrier is a message to Assad and Putin on whose side the USA stands.

[blondie]

Oh Gosh, I hope you stay safe Bach and continue to lead your own troops at your hospital. Thanks for your updates.

[George K]

[kluurs]

[Jolly]

Okay. For every Israeli executed, five more buildings go down.

[Renauda]

Make it an even ten more buildings.

[Jolly]

Left up to me, I'd set off a neutron bomb in the middle of the strip, let the corpses pile up and rot, while cutting off all water, utilities and medical aid for thirty days. Let the plague take its course.

Wanna go medieval? Treat them like the Canaanites.

[Renauda]

Wanna go medieval?

A modern day version of Edward the Black Prince’s tactic of Chevauchée would suffice. No need for WMD of any sort.

[Copper]

@bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

There will be no mercy anymore.

That makes sense to me.

Stay safe.

[Rainman]

I do not like that "no mercy anymore."
At least as a blanket statement.

[jon-nyc]

Israeli death toll up to 800. “At least” 150 hostages.

Jesus.

[jon-nyc]

On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.

It’s hard to listen to.

[Copper]

From a BBC story in March

Israeli gun ownership is low at about 2% of the population. It compares to about 30% of the population owning a gun in the US.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65110881

I'm surprised to see it that low.

[Copper]

Israeli airspace at the moment

Note the drone(?) in the south

No registration (just Israel), No Type

[Copper]

Interesting flight path on this Israeli military plane

There are a few Israeli military planes up, they all look like this

The few commercial flights leaving Tel Aviv look normal

[Horace]

I don’t know how to interpret this as a war. Is there a way to target those responsible for the terrorist attack? Is turning Gaza into glass a close enough approximation?

[Copper]

Isn't calling it a war something you do to establish new rules, not necessarily actions?

[Horace]

I am sure parallels to Dresden and Hiroshima exist.

[Renauda]

It’s a war, a war between Hamas and Israel in which Hamas fired the first shot in aggression. Israel is defending itself.

Not sure if you’ll find many parallels, Hamas is not a sovereign state and nor is there a recognised Palestinian state. In that sense it’s sort of like a civil war (which it is not) and sort of like, what Putin has called, a special military operation, but a purely defensive and justifiable SMO and one with a clearly defined objective - the annihilation of Hamas as a criminal and para military terrorist organisation. But on second thought it’s not an SMO either.

So for now let’s settle with; it’s a war. Much more to the point.