Hamas attacks Israel
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also the defense mnister galant just announced what will basically be a middle ages seige on gaza. no food, water fuel or supplies to be allowed in. all kid gloves are coming off
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 12:28 last edited by@bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:
all kid gloves are coming off
"One of the oldest rules in American gangland was formulated by Murray "the Camel" Humphreys of the Capone mob in Chicago: "If you ever have to cock a gun in a man's face, kill him. If you walk away without killing him after doing that, he'll kill you the next day." The Israelis could have, and should have, finished the Iran-adjacent Hamas terrorist organization when they had the chance, but of course they did not, and this is the result. "
Did Israel have the chance?
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 12:32 last edited by bachophile 10 Sept 2023, 12:33
the thing that always stopped it, was the price of war, too many soldiers dead. now we have (its going to be) 1000 dead and havent even crossed the border yet.
so this will get ugly, and lot of innocents will suffer, but a red line has been crossed which can never be redone. i dont think there will be negotiations for hostages. there will be all out war and if hostages die, its all part of the price for getting it done
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scattered reports about something in the north, but not verified yet....
in the meantime El Al has sent out a plane to south america, going country to country, picking up israeli trekkers trying to return to there reserve units. typical isreali wartime behaviour
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the idea is to bring hamas to its knees, and then some. till they beg to stop, and even then we wont until all their heads are served on a plate.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 12:36 last edited by
ok, have some cancer patients now, gotta stop
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Wow. They’re still fighting to take back their own land.
Israel’s military acknowledged on Monday that it was still battling to drive Palestinian militants out of southern towns near the Gaza Strip and that more militants could still be crossing through breaches in the border fence, two days after an invasion that has killed hundreds and provoked furious retaliatory strikes by Israel.
“We are still fighting,” Lt. Col. Richard Hecht of the Israel Defense Forces said at a briefing on Monday morning, offering an unusually blunt assessment of the military’s struggles to turn back the invasion that began on Saturday. “We thought by this morning we’d be in a better place.”
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 12:39 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
They’re still fighting to take back their own land.
Hamas is probably thinking this to themselves.
This large scale attack will accelerate Hamas’ demise.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:07 last edited by bachophile 10 Sept 2023, 13:08
@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
@bachophile said:
scattered reports about something in the north
all fine
some local bozos tried to shoot two mortar rounds over the fence
one landed in lebanon on the same side of the fence, the other in an open field over the border.
no infiltration
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:10 last edited by
I remember Larry advocating to simply push them into the sea. This is the first time that seems possible.
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I remember Larry advocating to simply push them into the sea. This is the first time that seems possible.
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:29 last edited by@Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:
I remember Larry advocating to simply push them into the sea. This is the first time that seems possible.
I do know one thing...No attack this large was done without knowledge of the Palestinian government in Gaza.
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@Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:
I remember Larry advocating to simply push them into the sea. This is the first time that seems possible.
I do know one thing...No attack this large was done without knowledge of the Palestinian government in Gaza.
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:32 last edited by bachophile 10 Sept 2023, 13:33@Jolly not sure...that authority is leaky as a sieve , israeli intelligence is deep inside them
hamas is much more compartmentalized
if anyone knew, its hezbollah in lebanon, because they have similar operational plans. and if they know, maybe Iran knew.
but if Iran knew, that would be a big intelligence failure. Tehran is also pretty leaky in that respect. Too many Iranians on mossad or CIA payrolls.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:37 last edited by
How much of this was a U.S. intelligence failure? Wasn't that a big part of our job, help see something this big coming?
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How much of this was a U.S. intelligence failure? Wasn't that a big part of our job, help see something this big coming?
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:44 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Hamas attacks Israel:
How much of this was a U.S. intelligence failure?
The fact that so much points to Iran and the recent revelation that US State had an Iranian asset at high levels (Malley), makes you wonder.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:49 last edited by
now they say they did kill three infiltrators in the north who crossed from lebanon. nothing more.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:55 last edited by
The headline here this morning is the USS Gerald Ford strike group, based here in Norfolk, is headed to aid Israel. They could certainly supply some power. It will be interesting to see how it is used.
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Yeah, I don't think he's much interested in a truce at the moment.
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Just saw a purported Hamas video in which they show several captured Israeli generals and key naval personnel. Fake?
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 15:17 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 15:23@kluurs said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Just saw a purported Hamas video in which they show several captured Israeli generals and key naval personnel. Fake?
I saw earlier today that it is misinformation. Not fake but not of Hamas or Israelis. The video is of Azeri forces capturing Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh a couple of weeks ago.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 15:27 last edited by
@bachophile Stay safe :couple_with_heart:
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@kluurs said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Just saw a purported Hamas video in which they show several captured Israeli generals and key naval personnel. Fake?
I saw earlier today that it is misinformation. Not fake but not of Hamas or Israelis. The video is of Azeri forces capturing Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh a couple of weeks ago.
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 16:00 last edited by@Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:
@kluurs said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Just saw a purported Hamas video in which they show several captured Israeli generals and key naval personnel. Fake?
I saw earlier today that it is misinformation. Not fake but not of Hamas or Israelis. The video is of Azeri forces capturing Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah, I've been hearing about that, the Azerbaijan/Armenia problems. Weird time.