Hamas attacks Israel
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Wow. They’re still fighting to take back their own land.
Israel’s military acknowledged on Monday that it was still battling to drive Palestinian militants out of southern towns near the Gaza Strip and that more militants could still be crossing through breaches in the border fence, two days after an invasion that has killed hundreds and provoked furious retaliatory strikes by Israel.
“We are still fighting,” Lt. Col. Richard Hecht of the Israel Defense Forces said at a briefing on Monday morning, offering an unusually blunt assessment of the military’s struggles to turn back the invasion that began on Saturday. “We thought by this morning we’d be in a better place.”
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 12:39 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
They’re still fighting to take back their own land.
Hamas is probably thinking this to themselves.
This large scale attack will accelerate Hamas’ demise.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:07 last edited by bachophile 10 Sept 2023, 13:08
@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
@bachophile said:
scattered reports about something in the north
all fine
some local bozos tried to shoot two mortar rounds over the fence
one landed in lebanon on the same side of the fence, the other in an open field over the border.
no infiltration
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:10 last edited by
I remember Larry advocating to simply push them into the sea. This is the first time that seems possible.
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I remember Larry advocating to simply push them into the sea. This is the first time that seems possible.
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:29 last edited by@Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:
I remember Larry advocating to simply push them into the sea. This is the first time that seems possible.
I do know one thing...No attack this large was done without knowledge of the Palestinian government in Gaza.
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@Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:
I remember Larry advocating to simply push them into the sea. This is the first time that seems possible.
I do know one thing...No attack this large was done without knowledge of the Palestinian government in Gaza.
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:32 last edited by bachophile 10 Sept 2023, 13:33@Jolly not sure...that authority is leaky as a sieve , israeli intelligence is deep inside them
hamas is much more compartmentalized
if anyone knew, its hezbollah in lebanon, because they have similar operational plans. and if they know, maybe Iran knew.
but if Iran knew, that would be a big intelligence failure. Tehran is also pretty leaky in that respect. Too many Iranians on mossad or CIA payrolls.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:37 last edited by
How much of this was a U.S. intelligence failure? Wasn't that a big part of our job, help see something this big coming?
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How much of this was a U.S. intelligence failure? Wasn't that a big part of our job, help see something this big coming?
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:44 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Hamas attacks Israel:
How much of this was a U.S. intelligence failure?
The fact that so much points to Iran and the recent revelation that US State had an Iranian asset at high levels (Malley), makes you wonder.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:49 last edited by
now they say they did kill three infiltrators in the north who crossed from lebanon. nothing more.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 13:55 last edited by
The headline here this morning is the USS Gerald Ford strike group, based here in Norfolk, is headed to aid Israel. They could certainly supply some power. It will be interesting to see how it is used.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 15:14 last edited by
Yeah, I don't think he's much interested in a truce at the moment.
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Just saw a purported Hamas video in which they show several captured Israeli generals and key naval personnel. Fake?
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 15:17 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 15:23@kluurs said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Just saw a purported Hamas video in which they show several captured Israeli generals and key naval personnel. Fake?
I saw earlier today that it is misinformation. Not fake but not of Hamas or Israelis. The video is of Azeri forces capturing Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh a couple of weeks ago.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 15:27 last edited by
@bachophile Stay safe :couple_with_heart:
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@kluurs said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Just saw a purported Hamas video in which they show several captured Israeli generals and key naval personnel. Fake?
I saw earlier today that it is misinformation. Not fake but not of Hamas or Israelis. The video is of Azeri forces capturing Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh a couple of weeks ago.
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 16:00 last edited by@Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:
@kluurs said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Just saw a purported Hamas video in which they show several captured Israeli generals and key naval personnel. Fake?
I saw earlier today that it is misinformation. Not fake but not of Hamas or Israelis. The video is of Azeri forces capturing Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah, I've been hearing about that, the Azerbaijan/Armenia problems. Weird time.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 16:07 last edited by
That whole region has problems.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 16:48 last edited by
My son asked me something I didn't have the answer to, maybe someone here can explain. And I don't want to bother bachophile, he's undoubtedly busier than hell and under a lot of stress.
Aren't all Israeli citizens required to have military training after high school? And, are citizens allowed to have guns in their homes? If so, why don't the people start shooting the Hamas guys in their pickups or those going door-to-door, or just coming down the street waving their weapons and yelling? -
My son asked me something I didn't have the answer to, maybe someone here can explain. And I don't want to bother bachophile, he's undoubtedly busier than hell and under a lot of stress.
Aren't all Israeli citizens required to have military training after high school? And, are citizens allowed to have guns in their homes? If so, why don't the people start shooting the Hamas guys in their pickups or those going door-to-door, or just coming down the street waving their weapons and yelling?wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 17:11 last edited by@Rainman said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Aren't all Israeli citizens required to have military training after high school?
Yes. In fact @bachophile was in the IDF - I'll let him give you the details.
And, are citizens allowed to have guns in their homes?
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 17:22 last edited by
Thanks, George. Once again, you use this internet thing I've heard so much about!
Does anyone know off the top of their head (or gooduck) what the consequences would be for shooting one of these maniacs from your bedroom window? Kind of a neighborhood watch program. -
wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 17:34 last edited by
It's an interesting question, to what extent did the civilians fight back, and to what extent were they armed sufficiently to do so.