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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Miley is a political ass, who probably could fuck up commanding a platoon.

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    @Jolly said in Wannabe Dictator:

    Miley is a political ass, who probably could fuck up commanding a platoon.

    So why did Trump appoint him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff? According to Wiki, it was his decision, going against the preference of Sec. of Defence, and the existing Chairman.

    As we know, nobody picks better people than your choice for President. By his own admission he's an amazing judge of character.

    I was only joking

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      It is amazing the number of high level people in his administration have come out and basically said that he is incompetent. I am not talking about people who were employee number 1xxx and never even met him, but those in the inner circle, who had daily, if not hourly contact with President Trump.

      Milley
      Mattis
      Tillerson
      Barr
      Pompeo
      Christie
      Bolton
      Kelly
      Spencer
      etc
      etc
      etc

      At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        Yeah, there’s a line from Justified about how if everyone you meet is an asshole, you’re the asshole.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          Yeah, there’s a line from Justified about how if everyone you meet is an asshole, you’re the asshole.

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          @Mik said in Wannabe Dictator:

          Yeah, there’s a line from Justified about how if everyone you meet is an asshole, you’re the asshole.

          I'd forgotten that.

          Great line, and totally appropriate.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Away
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            Yeah, there’s so much talk about how Trump values loyalty, while has none himself. He throws everyone under the bus as convenient to deflect blame.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              It is amazing the number of high level people in his administration have come out and basically said that he is incompetent. I am not talking about people who were employee number 1xxx and never even met him, but those in the inner circle, who had daily, if not hourly contact with President Trump.

              Milley
              Mattis
              Tillerson
              Barr
              Pompeo
              Christie
              Bolton
              Kelly
              Spencer
              etc
              etc
              etc

              At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.

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              bachophile
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              #10

              @taiwan_girl said in Wannabe Dictator:

              At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.

              One of the big questions of people on the opposite of trump side of the aisle is, is not comprehending how trump supporters don’t see this. How is it not obvious. And then the ones who get the ire are the “hiress” as you call them.

              They can’t all be idiots traitors shitheads. . Every appointee.

              Case in point milley not able to run a platoon

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                Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly

                , "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."

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                • bachophileB bachophile

                  @taiwan_girl said in Wannabe Dictator:

                  At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.

                  One of the big questions of people on the opposite of trump side of the aisle is, is not comprehending how trump supporters don’t see this. How is it not obvious. And then the ones who get the ire are the “hiress” as you call them.

                  They can’t all be idiots traitors shitheads. . Every appointee.

                  Case in point milley not able to run a platoon

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                  It seems to that there are three alternatives:

                  1. Trump hires idiots but only finds out too late that he made yet another terrible hiring mistake.

                  2. Trump hires fantastic people who become idiots after working for him after a couple of months

                  3. Trump hires good people who then discover that Trump is an idiot.

                  Or am I missing something here? Could one of Trump's supporters fill in a 4th alternative?

                  I was only joking

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                  • bachophileB bachophile

                    Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly

                    , "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."

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                    @bachophile said in Wannabe Dictator:

                    Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly

                    , "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."

                    There's actually a video somewhere on this forum where somebody compiled all of these before and after clips. It was quite funny and sad at the same time.

                    The Brad

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      It seems to that there are three alternatives:

                      1. Trump hires idiots but only finds out too late that he made yet another terrible hiring mistake.

                      2. Trump hires fantastic people who become idiots after working for him after a couple of months

                      3. Trump hires good people who then discover that Trump is an idiot.

                      Or am I missing something here? Could one of Trump's supporters fill in a 4th alternative?

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Wannabe Dictator:

                      Or am I missing something here? Could one of Trump's supporters fill in a 4th alternative?

                      Anyone?

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                      I was only joking

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                      • bachophileB bachophile

                        @taiwan_girl said in Wannabe Dictator:

                        At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.

                        One of the big questions of people on the opposite of trump side of the aisle is, is not comprehending how trump supporters don’t see this. How is it not obvious. And then the ones who get the ire are the “hiress” as you call them.

                        They can’t all be idiots traitors shitheads. . Every appointee.

                        Case in point milley not able to run a platoon

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                        @bachophile said in Wannabe Dictator:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Wannabe Dictator:

                        At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.

                        One of the big questions of people on the opposite of trump side of the aisle is, is not comprehending how trump supporters don’t see this.

                        Indeed, it is the real Trump Derangement Syndrome.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          I suspect Trump‘s personal inadequacies play a large role. But even if one goes to the Daily Wire, it is difficult to find people unwilling to admit that. The most prominent person not admitting that currently is Vivek. I don’t know of another full stop Trump supporter of prominence. I am sure they exist.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            No, I think most supporters simply prefer him to the other part candidate.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              No, I think most supporters simply prefer him to the other part candidate.

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                              @Mik said in Wannabe Dictator:

                              No, I think most supporters simply prefer him to the other part candidate.

                              I think that’s looking at him from your own perspective and not necessarily the majority. To me, it feels like 35% of the Republicans are solid Trump loyalists. If you showed indisputable video of Trump killing Mother Theresa, half would believe it to be a media conspiracy and the other half would try to explain why Theresa had it coming.

                              Then there’s another 35% that are open to Trump, but aren’t blind loyalists. They range from those that want to believe Trump but harbor doubts to those that don’t like Trump at all but feel the alternative is worse. That’s where you fall. But the first 35% does exist, and it’s just as big of a bloc as yours…

                              The Brad

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                                I've said it before, but I've never seen the level of enthusiasm there was for Trump during the 2016 election, and this was in Massachusetts, FFS. When they had a little rally for him in the middle of town the number of pickup trucks driving by blaring their horns and carry MAGA flags was really noticeable.

                                Those folk don't just think he's better than the other guy. The woman who kept his sign up on the lawn after the election, but erased Pence's name wasn't just saying 'Meh, he's ok...'.

                                I was only joking

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                                • bachophileB bachophile

                                  Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly

                                  , "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."

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                                  @bachophile said in Wannabe Dictator:

                                  Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly

                                  , "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."

                                  Gen. Kelly in a interview just a few days ago.

                                  “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

                                  “A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

                                  “There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”

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                                    There is a pattern among senior officers who worked either directly with Trump or close to him. To a man, they pretty much despise him not only as a leader but as a person as well.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      There is a pattern among senior officers who worked either directly with Trump or close to him. To a man, they pretty much despise him not only as a leader but as a person as well.

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                                      @Renauda said in Wannabe Dictator:

                                      To a man, they pretty much despise him not only as a leader but as a person as well.

                                      Even Barr, who seemed to be the most Trump-friendly guy, has reconsidered.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        I've said it before, but I've never seen the level of enthusiasm there was for Trump during the 2016 election, and this was in Massachusetts, FFS. When they had a little rally for him in the middle of town the number of pickup trucks driving by blaring their horns and carry MAGA flags was really noticeable.

                                        Those folk don't just think he's better than the other guy. The woman who kept his sign up on the lawn after the election, but erased Pence's name wasn't just saying 'Meh, he's ok...'.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Wannabe Dictator:

                                        I've said it before, but I've never seen the level of enthusiasm there was for Trump during the 2016 election, and this was in Massachusetts, FFS. When they had a little rally for him in the middle of town the number of pickup trucks driving by blaring their horns and carry MAGA flags was really noticeable.

                                        Before Trump (and even now) there is the "silent majority" per se... These are the conservatives, the traditionalists, the folks in the city, the folks in the country, folks like me to be honest, folks that have seen for years, even decades, a media that runs to a left-leaning beat. The movies, the shows, the magazines, the newspapers, the headlines, the celebrities... aka the loudest voices constantly blaring left-leaning policies. I think inherently, a liberal mindset is much louder and more protest-y than the conservative mindset, which is quieter and doesn't capture the headlines.

                                        You take all that... and the silent boiling annoyance that you're not represented in what you see and hear, and in 2016 you get someone who makes you feel... heard. He represents the anti-woke, anti-liberal, uber-patriotic, unfiltered ideas that you've discussed at the kitchen table for so many years. So Trump captures this unrepresented energy and wins in 2016. It's why all the polls were wrong about Hillary winning. The silent majority lived up to its name, but the votes proved what the reality was behind the headlines.

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Wannabe Dictator:

                                          I've said it before, but I've never seen the level of enthusiasm there was for Trump during the 2016 election, and this was in Massachusetts, FFS. When they had a little rally for him in the middle of town the number of pickup trucks driving by blaring their horns and carry MAGA flags was really noticeable.

                                          Before Trump (and even now) there is the "silent majority" per se... These are the conservatives, the traditionalists, the folks in the city, the folks in the country, folks like me to be honest, folks that have seen for years, even decades, a media that runs to a left-leaning beat. The movies, the shows, the magazines, the newspapers, the headlines, the celebrities... aka the loudest voices constantly blaring left-leaning policies. I think inherently, a liberal mindset is much louder and more protest-y than the conservative mindset, which is quieter and doesn't capture the headlines.

                                          You take all that... and the silent boiling annoyance that you're not represented in what you see and hear, and in 2016 you get someone who makes you feel... heard. He represents the anti-woke, anti-liberal, uber-patriotic, unfiltered ideas that you've discussed at the kitchen table for so many years. So Trump captures this unrepresented energy and wins in 2016. It's why all the polls were wrong about Hillary winning. The silent majority lived up to its name, but the votes proved what the reality was behind the headlines.

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                                          @89th said in Wannabe Dictator:

                                          It's why all the polls were wrong about Hillary winning. The silent majority lived up to its name, but the votes proved what the reality was behind the headlines.

                                          I have to disagree, a bit, on this.

                                          Hillary won the popular vote, and the polls were right. Trump won where he had to win to secure the Electoral College.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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