Wannabe Dictator
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It is amazing the number of high level people in his administration have come out and basically said that he is incompetent. I am not talking about people who were employee number 1xxx and never even met him, but those in the inner circle, who had daily, if not hourly contact with President Trump.
Milley
Mattis
Tillerson
Barr
Pompeo
Christie
Bolton
Kelly
Spencer
etc
etc
etcAt some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.
wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 07:24 last edited by bachophile 10 Mar 2023, 11:09@taiwan_girl said in Wannabe Dictator:
At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.
One of the big questions of people on the opposite of trump side of the aisle is, is not comprehending how trump supporters don’t see this. How is it not obvious. And then the ones who get the ire are the “hiress” as you call them.
They can’t all be idiots traitors shitheads. . Every appointee.
Case in point milley not able to run a platoon
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wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 07:57 last edited by
Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly
, "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."
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@taiwan_girl said in Wannabe Dictator:
At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.
One of the big questions of people on the opposite of trump side of the aisle is, is not comprehending how trump supporters don’t see this. How is it not obvious. And then the ones who get the ire are the “hiress” as you call them.
They can’t all be idiots traitors shitheads. . Every appointee.
Case in point milley not able to run a platoon
wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 11:32 last edited byIt seems to that there are three alternatives:
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Trump hires idiots but only finds out too late that he made yet another terrible hiring mistake.
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Trump hires fantastic people who become idiots after working for him after a couple of months
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Trump hires good people who then discover that Trump is an idiot.
Or am I missing something here? Could one of Trump's supporters fill in a 4th alternative?
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Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly
, "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."
wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 20:30 last edited by LuFins Dad 10 Mar 2023, 20:30@bachophile said in Wannabe Dictator:
Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly
, "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."
There's actually a video somewhere on this forum where somebody compiled all of these before and after clips. It was quite funny and sad at the same time.
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It seems to that there are three alternatives:
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Trump hires idiots but only finds out too late that he made yet another terrible hiring mistake.
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Trump hires fantastic people who become idiots after working for him after a couple of months
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Trump hires good people who then discover that Trump is an idiot.
Or am I missing something here? Could one of Trump's supporters fill in a 4th alternative?
wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 20:35 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Wannabe Dictator:
Or am I missing something here? Could one of Trump's supporters fill in a 4th alternative?
Anyone?
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@taiwan_girl said in Wannabe Dictator:
At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.
One of the big questions of people on the opposite of trump side of the aisle is, is not comprehending how trump supporters don’t see this. How is it not obvious. And then the ones who get the ire are the “hiress” as you call them.
They can’t all be idiots traitors shitheads. . Every appointee.
Case in point milley not able to run a platoon
wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 20:38 last edited by@bachophile said in Wannabe Dictator:
@taiwan_girl said in Wannabe Dictator:
At some point, even President Trump supporters should come to the realization that the problem is with the hirer, and not the hirees.
One of the big questions of people on the opposite of trump side of the aisle is, is not comprehending how trump supporters don’t see this.
Indeed, it is the real Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 20:40 last edited by Horace 10 Mar 2023, 20:41
I suspect Trump‘s personal inadequacies play a large role. But even if one goes to the Daily Wire, it is difficult to find people unwilling to admit that. The most prominent person not admitting that currently is Vivek. I don’t know of another full stop Trump supporter of prominence. I am sure they exist.
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wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 20:49 last edited by
No, I think most supporters simply prefer him to the other part candidate.
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wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 21:15 last edited by
@Mik said in Wannabe Dictator:
No, I think most supporters simply prefer him to the other part candidate.
I think that’s looking at him from your own perspective and not necessarily the majority. To me, it feels like 35% of the Republicans are solid Trump loyalists. If you showed indisputable video of Trump killing Mother Theresa, half would believe it to be a media conspiracy and the other half would try to explain why Theresa had it coming.
Then there’s another 35% that are open to Trump, but aren’t blind loyalists. They range from those that want to believe Trump but harbor doubts to those that don’t like Trump at all but feel the alternative is worse. That’s where you fall. But the first 35% does exist, and it’s just as big of a bloc as yours…
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wrote on 3 Oct 2023, 23:59 last edited by
I've said it before, but I've never seen the level of enthusiasm there was for Trump during the 2016 election, and this was in Massachusetts, FFS. When they had a little rally for him in the middle of town the number of pickup trucks driving by blaring their horns and carry MAGA flags was really noticeable.
Those folk don't just think he's better than the other guy. The woman who kept his sign up on the lawn after the election, but erased Pence's name wasn't just saying 'Meh, he's ok...'.
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Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly
, "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 00:53 last edited by@bachophile said in Wannabe Dictator:
Another case in point. Fuckhead Kelly
, "I am pleased to inform you that I have just named General/Secretary John F Kelly as White House Chief of Staff. He is a Great American … and a Great Leader. John has also done a spectacular job at Homeland Security. He has been a true star of my Administration."
Gen. Kelly in a interview just a few days ago.
“A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.
“A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.
“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 01:02 last edited by
There is a pattern among senior officers who worked either directly with Trump or close to him. To a man, they pretty much despise him not only as a leader but as a person as well.
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There is a pattern among senior officers who worked either directly with Trump or close to him. To a man, they pretty much despise him not only as a leader but as a person as well.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 01:16 last edited by@Renauda said in Wannabe Dictator:
To a man, they pretty much despise him not only as a leader but as a person as well.
Even Barr, who seemed to be the most Trump-friendly guy, has reconsidered.
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I've said it before, but I've never seen the level of enthusiasm there was for Trump during the 2016 election, and this was in Massachusetts, FFS. When they had a little rally for him in the middle of town the number of pickup trucks driving by blaring their horns and carry MAGA flags was really noticeable.
Those folk don't just think he's better than the other guy. The woman who kept his sign up on the lawn after the election, but erased Pence's name wasn't just saying 'Meh, he's ok...'.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:42 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Wannabe Dictator:
I've said it before, but I've never seen the level of enthusiasm there was for Trump during the 2016 election, and this was in Massachusetts, FFS. When they had a little rally for him in the middle of town the number of pickup trucks driving by blaring their horns and carry MAGA flags was really noticeable.
Before Trump (and even now) there is the "silent majority" per se... These are the conservatives, the traditionalists, the folks in the city, the folks in the country, folks like me to be honest, folks that have seen for years, even decades, a media that runs to a left-leaning beat. The movies, the shows, the magazines, the newspapers, the headlines, the celebrities... aka the loudest voices constantly blaring left-leaning policies. I think inherently, a liberal mindset is much louder and more protest-y than the conservative mindset, which is quieter and doesn't capture the headlines.
You take all that... and the silent boiling annoyance that you're not represented in what you see and hear, and in 2016 you get someone who makes you feel... heard. He represents the anti-woke, anti-liberal, uber-patriotic, unfiltered ideas that you've discussed at the kitchen table for so many years. So Trump captures this unrepresented energy and wins in 2016. It's why all the polls were wrong about Hillary winning. The silent majority lived up to its name, but the votes proved what the reality was behind the headlines.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Wannabe Dictator:
I've said it before, but I've never seen the level of enthusiasm there was for Trump during the 2016 election, and this was in Massachusetts, FFS. When they had a little rally for him in the middle of town the number of pickup trucks driving by blaring their horns and carry MAGA flags was really noticeable.
Before Trump (and even now) there is the "silent majority" per se... These are the conservatives, the traditionalists, the folks in the city, the folks in the country, folks like me to be honest, folks that have seen for years, even decades, a media that runs to a left-leaning beat. The movies, the shows, the magazines, the newspapers, the headlines, the celebrities... aka the loudest voices constantly blaring left-leaning policies. I think inherently, a liberal mindset is much louder and more protest-y than the conservative mindset, which is quieter and doesn't capture the headlines.
You take all that... and the silent boiling annoyance that you're not represented in what you see and hear, and in 2016 you get someone who makes you feel... heard. He represents the anti-woke, anti-liberal, uber-patriotic, unfiltered ideas that you've discussed at the kitchen table for so many years. So Trump captures this unrepresented energy and wins in 2016. It's why all the polls were wrong about Hillary winning. The silent majority lived up to its name, but the votes proved what the reality was behind the headlines.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:51 last edited by@89th said in Wannabe Dictator:
It's why all the polls were wrong about Hillary winning. The silent majority lived up to its name, but the votes proved what the reality was behind the headlines.
I have to disagree, a bit, on this.
Hillary won the popular vote, and the polls were right. Trump won where he had to win to secure the Electoral College.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 14:01 last edited by
Yes that is fair. Perhaps I was thinking more of the comments such as "there's no way the host of a reality show can win" on election day, only to be surprised when they woke up Wednesday.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 14:02 last edited by
According to Trump he won the 2016 popular vote, as well. It was just that there was 'tremendous cheating'.
He's also won the Trump family's 'the sexiest man alive' competition for 30 years straight, and has a golf handicap of -50.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 14:14 last edited by
And weighs 215
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Wannabe Dictator:
I've said it before, but I've never seen the level of enthusiasm there was for Trump during the 2016 election, and this was in Massachusetts, FFS. When they had a little rally for him in the middle of town the number of pickup trucks driving by blaring their horns and carry MAGA flags was really noticeable.
Before Trump (and even now) there is the "silent majority" per se... These are the conservatives, the traditionalists, the folks in the city, the folks in the country, folks like me to be honest, folks that have seen for years, even decades, a media that runs to a left-leaning beat. The movies, the shows, the magazines, the newspapers, the headlines, the celebrities... aka the loudest voices constantly blaring left-leaning policies. I think inherently, a liberal mindset is much louder and more protest-y than the conservative mindset, which is quieter and doesn't capture the headlines.
You take all that... and the silent boiling annoyance that you're not represented in what you see and hear, and in 2016 you get someone who makes you feel... heard. He represents the anti-woke, anti-liberal, uber-patriotic, unfiltered ideas that you've discussed at the kitchen table for so many years. So Trump captures this unrepresented energy and wins in 2016. It's why all the polls were wrong about Hillary winning. The silent majority lived up to its name, but the votes proved what the reality was behind the headlines.
wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 16:08 last edited by@89th said in Wannabe Dictator:
uber-patriotic
I agree with pretty much most of what you wrote, but I am wondering what is your definition of "uber-patriotic" means
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wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 16:31 last edited by
Great post, 89th.
I don't know if "uber-patriotic" is anything more than immense pride in what the founding fathers' put together in the evolution of mankind, and the pride at what the people had to sacrifice at the time. Put that in a good movie and smoke it. Gives me goosebumps.
