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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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  • MikM Mik

    WSJ not fond of Gaetz.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gaetz-co-a-tale-as-old-as-time/ar-AA1hLasR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2770893fa8934d32bbb290543b472cf4&ei=12

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    @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

    WSJ not fond of Gaetz.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gaetz-co-a-tale-as-old-as-time/ar-AA1hLasR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2770893fa8934d32bbb290543b472cf4&ei=12

    They are not the only one. Even a lot of his colleagues of his party agree.

    “Matt Gaetz is frankly a vile person,” Representative Mike Lawler told CNN’s Manu Raju late Monday. “He’s not somebody who’s willing to work as a team. He stands up there, he grandstands, he lies directly to folks.”

    Representative Derrick Van Orden told Raju that he won’t support either of the new candidates for speaker “until we deal with the fact that we have people in our conference who could shut this House down on a whim again.”

    Representative Don Bacon accused the eight anti-McCarthy voters of having “kicked us in the shins really bad.”
    “They don’t support our party, and it’s all about media clicks,” he told CNN.

    Representative Tom Cole, who chairs the House Rules Committee, suggested raising the threshold for the motion to vacate. “I think it’s time to take the sharp knives away from the children,” he told Axios.

    https://newrepublic.com/post/176102/house-republicans-plan-deal-with-matt-gaetz

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      “I think it’s time to take the sharp knives away from the children,”

      Hear, hear.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

        Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

          Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

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          @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

          Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

          Let's see what kind of deal he's willing to cut with the Democrats.

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            Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

            Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

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            @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

            Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

            Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

            Yet another Trump pick goes on to lose.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Gaetz says he supports Scalise.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Jordan throws his support to Scalise as well.

                Meanwhile the House recessed, presumably to allow vote-gathering to occur.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  Jordan throws his support to Scalise as well.

                  Meanwhile the House recessed, presumably to allow vote-gathering to occur.

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                  @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  Jordan throws his support to Scalise as well.

                  Meanwhile the House recessed, presumably to allow vote-gathering to occur.

                  Scalise is more of a deal maker than Jordan. But if you think Scalise is as moderate as McCarthy...Well y'all are gonna be surprised...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Good for him.

                      I found it amazing that Gaetz supported Scalise.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        https://www.npr.org/2023/10/12/1205627746/scalise-drops-out-of-race-for-speaker-of-the-house-leaving-congress-in-limbo

                        Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., has dropped out of the race to become the new House speaker, after failing to secure enough support for his bid to succeed on the floor.

                        "I was very clear we have to have everybody put their agendas on the side and focus on what this country needs," Scalise told reporters in the Capitol. "This country is counting on us to come back together. This House of Representatives needs a speaker, and we need to open up the House again."

                        Scalise informed House Republicans of his plans during a closed-door meeting in the basement of the Capitol.

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                          Blame the (conservative) media!

                          https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/12/matt-gaetz-conservative-media-00121095

                          Article blames the GOP's dysfunction on "conservative media" (AM talk radio, FoxNews, etc.).

                          An excerpt:

                          But the truth is that angry conservative media hosts have only themselves to blame for McCarthy’s downfall and the disarray currently facing House Republicans.
                          .
                          The leaders of conservative talk radio and cable news have spent years assailing GOP congressional leaders — including McCarthy — and they are largely responsible for turning far-right rebels like Gaetz into stars. Going back to the 1990s, conservative media created the political ecosystem in which torching and targeting Republican leaders is good politics on the right. And they’ve ensured that the next speaker, whether it’s Steve Scalise or someone else, will face the same poisonous incentive structure that took down McCarthy.

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                            https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2023/10/13/republicans-pick-jim-jordan-as-nominee-for-house-speaker/

                            Republicans chose Rep. Jim Jordan as their new nominee for House speaker on Friday during internal voting, putting the gavel within reach of the staunch ally of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump.

                            Jordan, of Ohio, will now try to unite colleagues from the deeply divided House GOP majority around his bid ahead of a floor vote, which could push to next week.

                            Frustrated House Republicans have been fighting bitterly over whom they should elect to replace the speaker they ousted, Rep. Kevin McCarthy, and the future direction of their party. The stalemate, now in its second week, has thrown the House into chaos, grinding all other business to a halt.

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                              https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2023/10/13/republicans-pick-jim-jordan-as-nominee-for-house-speaker/

                              Republicans chose Rep. Jim Jordan as their new nominee for House speaker on Friday during internal voting, putting the gavel within reach of the staunch ally of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump.

                              Jordan, of Ohio, will now try to unite colleagues from the deeply divided House GOP majority around his bid ahead of a floor vote, which could push to next week.

                              Frustrated House Republicans have been fighting bitterly over whom they should elect to replace the speaker they ousted, Rep. Kevin McCarthy, and the future direction of their party. The stalemate, now in its second week, has thrown the House into chaos, grinding all other business to a halt.

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                              @taiwan_girl said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                              The stalemate, now in its second week, has thrown the House into chaos, grinding all other business to a halt.

                              It’s a national embarrassment.

                              Once this is resolved, I would expect the House to implement a mechanism whereby this is prevented.

                              Perhaps giving the Speaker Pro Tem authorities that the Speaker has for a limited time.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-adjourns-disarray-support-jordan-looks-weaker-than-expected

                                Jordan won 124 votes against his rival in the race, Rep. Austin Scott, R-Ga., who won 81.

                                After the first ballot, Jordan called for a second round in which lawmakers were asked whether they will support Jordan on the House floor.

                                He managed to win 152 votes on that round, but 55 Republicans still said they would vote against him. A GOP candidate for speaker would need to reach 217 votes to win a House-wide vote with no Democratic support.

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                                  A google response to my question stated there were 59 members in the House originally (59 - 65). Of course they didn't have Smart Phones so it all equals out. That's sarcasm, AX. Don't fret that I'm increasing in idiocityness.

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                                    There is some talk about bringing Dems in for a bipartisan vote.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      That would be a good development but not very 2023. Still we can hope.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Yes, I dont see how Rep. Jordan can win. As one of the reps. said, voting for him is rewarding the very few few R. representatives who voted to remove Rep. McCarthy.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          That would be a good development but not very 2023. Still we can hope.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                          That would be a good development but not very 2023. Still we can hope.

                                          Ain't gonna happen. I'm surprised that even it got as far as it did...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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