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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #113

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
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      #114

      Meme gold mine.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #115

        I think that second one dates back to the interminable voting in January.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • AxtremusA Away
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          Axtremus
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          #116

          And survey says ...

          https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/08/poll-republicans-support-mccarthy-ouster-00120518

          • 60% of adults in the U.S. backing [McCarthy's] removal
          • 75% agreed with the sentiment that McCarthy wasn’t effective
          • 54% of Americans who identified as conservative expressed approval for ousting McCarthy,
          • 70% of Americans who called themselves liberals backed the move

          Survey results: https://www.scribd.com/document/676024276/cbsnews-20231008-1-1#fullscreen=1

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            #117

            Trump as speaker?

            I love it. Where do I sign-up?

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              #118

              House Republicans left their meeting Monday night still unclear on how quickly the chamber could elect a new speaker. Reps. Jim Jordan and Steve Scalise are vying for the position, but some members said they were holding out hope for former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy to be reinstated to his old job after his historic ouster last week.

              https://www.cbsnews.com/video/house-speaker-race-no-front-runner-israel-ukraine-aid/

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #119

                I think McCarthy returning is not out of the question. If neither Scalise nor Jordan can get 218, you could see him coming back. Potentially with a deal with a few dems.

                I wouldn’t call it likely, just not out of the question.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I think McCarthy returning is not out of the question. If neither Scalise nor Jordan can get 218, you could see him coming back. Potentially with a deal with a few dems.

                  I wouldn’t call it likely, just not out of the question.

                  AxtremusA Away
                  AxtremusA Away
                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #120

                  @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  Potentially with a deal with a few dems.

                  Could have saved himself and the country a lot of trouble had he cut a deal a few Democrats the first time around.

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                  • MikM Mik

                    WSJ not fond of Gaetz.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gaetz-co-a-tale-as-old-as-time/ar-AA1hLasR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2770893fa8934d32bbb290543b472cf4&ei=12

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    #121

                    @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    WSJ not fond of Gaetz.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gaetz-co-a-tale-as-old-as-time/ar-AA1hLasR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2770893fa8934d32bbb290543b472cf4&ei=12

                    They are not the only one. Even a lot of his colleagues of his party agree.

                    “Matt Gaetz is frankly a vile person,” Representative Mike Lawler told CNN’s Manu Raju late Monday. “He’s not somebody who’s willing to work as a team. He stands up there, he grandstands, he lies directly to folks.”

                    Representative Derrick Van Orden told Raju that he won’t support either of the new candidates for speaker “until we deal with the fact that we have people in our conference who could shut this House down on a whim again.”

                    Representative Don Bacon accused the eight anti-McCarthy voters of having “kicked us in the shins really bad.”
                    “They don’t support our party, and it’s all about media clicks,” he told CNN.

                    Representative Tom Cole, who chairs the House Rules Committee, suggested raising the threshold for the motion to vacate. “I think it’s time to take the sharp knives away from the children,” he told Axios.

                    https://newrepublic.com/post/176102/house-republicans-plan-deal-with-matt-gaetz

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #122

                      “I think it’s time to take the sharp knives away from the children,”

                      Hear, hear.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #123

                        Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

                        Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

                          Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

                          AxtremusA Away
                          AxtremusA Away
                          Axtremus
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #124

                          @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                          Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

                          Let's see what kind of deal he's willing to cut with the Democrats.

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                          • George KG George K

                            Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

                            Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

                            jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
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                            #125

                            @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                            Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

                            Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

                            Yet another Trump pick goes on to lose.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #126

                              Gaetz says he supports Scalise.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #127

                                Jordan throws his support to Scalise as well.

                                Meanwhile the House recessed, presumably to allow vote-gathering to occur.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  Jordan throws his support to Scalise as well.

                                  Meanwhile the House recessed, presumably to allow vote-gathering to occur.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #128

                                  @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                  Jordan throws his support to Scalise as well.

                                  Meanwhile the House recessed, presumably to allow vote-gathering to occur.

                                  Scalise is more of a deal maker than Jordan. But if you think Scalise is as moderate as McCarthy...Well y'all are gonna be surprised...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #129

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #130

                                      Good for him.

                                      I found it amazing that Gaetz supported Scalise.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                        taiwan_girl
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                                        #131

                                        https://www.npr.org/2023/10/12/1205627746/scalise-drops-out-of-race-for-speaker-of-the-house-leaving-congress-in-limbo

                                        Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., has dropped out of the race to become the new House speaker, after failing to secure enough support for his bid to succeed on the floor.

                                        "I was very clear we have to have everybody put their agendas on the side and focus on what this country needs," Scalise told reporters in the Capitol. "This country is counting on us to come back together. This House of Representatives needs a speaker, and we need to open up the House again."

                                        Scalise informed House Republicans of his plans during a closed-door meeting in the basement of the Capitol.

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                                        • AxtremusA Away
                                          AxtremusA Away
                                          Axtremus
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                                          #132

                                          Blame the (conservative) media!

                                          https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/12/matt-gaetz-conservative-media-00121095

                                          Article blames the GOP's dysfunction on "conservative media" (AM talk radio, FoxNews, etc.).

                                          An excerpt:

                                          But the truth is that angry conservative media hosts have only themselves to blame for McCarthy’s downfall and the disarray currently facing House Republicans.
                                          .
                                          The leaders of conservative talk radio and cable news have spent years assailing GOP congressional leaders — including McCarthy — and they are largely responsible for turning far-right rebels like Gaetz into stars. Going back to the 1990s, conservative media created the political ecosystem in which torching and targeting Republican leaders is good politics on the right. And they’ve ensured that the next speaker, whether it’s Steve Scalise or someone else, will face the same poisonous incentive structure that took down McCarthy.

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