Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

[jon-nyc]

I think that second one dates back to the interminable voting in January.

[Axtremus]

And survey says ...

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/08/poll-republicans-support-mccarthy-ouster-00120518

• 60% of adults in the U.S. backing [McCarthy's] removal
• 75% agreed with the sentiment that McCarthy wasn’t effective
• 54% of Americans who identified as conservative expressed approval for ousting McCarthy,
• 70% of Americans who called themselves liberals backed the move

Survey results: https://www.scribd.com/document/676024276/cbsnews-20231008-1-1#fullscreen=1

[Copper]

Trump as speaker?

I love it. Where do I sign-up?

[taiwan_girl]

House Republicans left their meeting Monday night still unclear on how quickly the chamber could elect a new speaker. Reps. Jim Jordan and Steve Scalise are vying for the position, but some members said they were holding out hope for former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy to be reinstated to his old job after his historic ouster last week.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/house-speaker-race-no-front-runner-israel-ukraine-aid/

[jon-nyc]

I think McCarthy returning is not out of the question. If neither Scalise nor Jordan can get 218, you could see him coming back. Potentially with a deal with a few dems.

I wouldn’t call it likely, just not out of the question.

[Axtremus]

@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

Potentially with a deal with a few dems.

Could have saved himself and the country a lot of trouble had he cut a deal a few Democrats the first time around.

[taiwan_girl]

@Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

WSJ not fond of Gaetz.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gaetz-co-a-tale-as-old-as-time/ar-AA1hLasR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2770893fa8934d32bbb290543b472cf4&ei=12

They are not the only one. Even a lot of his colleagues of his party agree.

“Matt Gaetz is frankly a vile person,” Representative Mike Lawler told CNN’s Manu Raju late Monday. “He’s not somebody who’s willing to work as a team. He stands up there, he grandstands, he lies directly to folks.”

Representative Derrick Van Orden told Raju that he won’t support either of the new candidates for speaker “until we deal with the fact that we have people in our conference who could shut this House down on a whim again.”

Representative Don Bacon accused the eight anti-McCarthy voters of having “kicked us in the shins really bad.”
“They don’t support our party, and it’s all about media clicks,” he told CNN.

Representative Tom Cole, who chairs the House Rules Committee, suggested raising the threshold for the motion to vacate. “I think it’s time to take the sharp knives away from the children,” he told Axios.

https://newrepublic.com/post/176102/house-republicans-plan-deal-with-matt-gaetz

[jon-nyc]

“I think it’s time to take the sharp knives away from the children,”

Hear, hear.

[George K]

Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

[Axtremus]

@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

Let's see what kind of deal he's willing to cut with the Democrats.

[jon-nyc]

@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

Sealise wins nomination 113-99.

Now let's see if he can win the speakership.

Yet another Trump pick goes on to lose.

[George K]

Gaetz says he supports Scalise.

[George K]

Jordan throws his support to Scalise as well.

Meanwhile the House recessed, presumably to allow vote-gathering to occur.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

Jordan throws his support to Scalise as well.

Meanwhile the House recessed, presumably to allow vote-gathering to occur.

Scalise is more of a deal maker than Jordan. But if you think Scalise is as moderate as McCarthy...Well y'all are gonna be surprised...

[jon-nyc]

[George K]

Good for him.

I found it amazing that Gaetz supported Scalise.

[taiwan_girl]

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/12/1205627746/scalise-drops-out-of-race-for-speaker-of-the-house-leaving-congress-in-limbo

Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., has dropped out of the race to become the new House speaker, after failing to secure enough support for his bid to succeed on the floor.

"I was very clear we have to have everybody put their agendas on the side and focus on what this country needs," Scalise told reporters in the Capitol. "This country is counting on us to come back together. This House of Representatives needs a speaker, and we need to open up the House again."

Scalise informed House Republicans of his plans during a closed-door meeting in the basement of the Capitol.

[Axtremus]

Blame the (conservative) media!

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/12/matt-gaetz-conservative-media-00121095

Article blames the GOP's dysfunction on "conservative media" (AM talk radio, FoxNews, etc.).

An excerpt:

But the truth is that angry conservative media hosts have only themselves to blame for McCarthy’s downfall and the disarray currently facing House Republicans.
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The leaders of conservative talk radio and cable news have spent years assailing GOP congressional leaders — including McCarthy — and they are largely responsible for turning far-right rebels like Gaetz into stars. Going back to the 1990s, conservative media created the political ecosystem in which torching and targeting Republican leaders is good politics on the right. And they’ve ensured that the next speaker, whether it’s Steve Scalise or someone else, will face the same poisonous incentive structure that took down McCarthy.

[taiwan_girl]

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2023/10/13/republicans-pick-jim-jordan-as-nominee-for-house-speaker/

Republicans chose Rep. Jim Jordan as their new nominee for House speaker on Friday during internal voting, putting the gavel within reach of the staunch ally of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump.

Jordan, of Ohio, will now try to unite colleagues from the deeply divided House GOP majority around his bid ahead of a floor vote, which could push to next week.

Frustrated House Republicans have been fighting bitterly over whom they should elect to replace the speaker they ousted, Rep. Kevin McCarthy, and the future direction of their party. The stalemate, now in its second week, has thrown the House into chaos, grinding all other business to a halt.

[George K]

@taiwan_girl said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

The stalemate, now in its second week, has thrown the House into chaos, grinding all other business to a halt.

It’s a national embarrassment.

Once this is resolved, I would expect the House to implement a mechanism whereby this is prevented.

Perhaps giving the Speaker Pro Tem authorities that the Speaker has for a limited time.