Menendez Indicted
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Speaker McCarthy wants Sen. Menendez to resign until, well, that means that maybe Rep. Santos should resign also. Suddenly, speaker McCarthy thinks that Sen. Menendez should have have his day in court. LOL
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Menendez was indicted last week on bribery charges. On Saturday, McCarthy called for the senator’s resignation, saying that the indictment was “very damaging” and that the evidence presented by prosecutors “seems pretty black and white.”But McCarthy seemed to flip-flop on Tuesday after CNN’s Manu Raju asked him a cagey question: “Do you think that George Santos, who’s been indicted on federal criminal charges, should also resign?”
The partisan divide in the House is very slim ― 221 Republicans to 212 Democrats ― and McCarthy needs every possible vote he can get.
So after Raju pointed out the hypocrisy of asking a Democrat to resign and a Republican to fight their charge in court, McCarthy decided Menendez should also be presumed innocent until found guilty.
“I think George could have his day in court, and I think Menendez could have his day in court,” he said.
Raju then reminded McCarthy of his earlier comments, saying, “Mr. Speaker, why do you think [Menendez] needs to resign, then?”
McCarthy immediately flip-flopped.
“It could be his choice of what he wants to do, yes,” he said.
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Menendez faces new charges accusing him of working for foreign government
The superseding indictment alleges Menendez, “provided sensitive U.S. Government information and took other steps that secretly aided the Government of Egypt.”
Image: Recently Indicted New Jersey Sen. Menendez Delivers Statement To The Media In NJ
Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., was hit with new charges Thursday accusing him of accepting bribes to behalf of a foreign government and acting as foreign agent, according to a superseding indictment.The new indictment, filed by a federal grand jury in Manhattan, alleges Menendez, “provided sensitive U.S. Government information and took other steps that secretly aided the Government of Egypt.”
Menendez and his wife, Nadine, last month pleaded not guilty to corruption charges alleging that he and his wife used his influence to pocket hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes.
"Provided sensitive information..."
Another word for that is "spy."
Still no call for expulsion from the Democrats in the Senate.
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The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Menendez faces new charges accusing him of working for foreign government
The superseding indictment alleges Menendez, “provided sensitive U.S. Government information and took other steps that secretly aided the Government of Egypt.”
Image: Recently Indicted New Jersey Sen. Menendez Delivers Statement To The Media In NJ
Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., was hit with new charges Thursday accusing him of accepting bribes to behalf of a foreign government and acting as foreign agent, according to a superseding indictment.The new indictment, filed by a federal grand jury in Manhattan, alleges Menendez, “provided sensitive U.S. Government information and took other steps that secretly aided the Government of Egypt.”
Menendez and his wife, Nadine, last month pleaded not guilty to corruption charges alleging that he and his wife used his influence to pocket hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes.
"Provided sensitive information..."
Another word for that is "spy."
Still no call for expulsion from the Democrats in the Senate.
@George-K said in Menendez Indicted:
Still no call for expulsion from the Democrats in the Senate.
Does calling for Menendez to resign count?
Here are the Democrats who have called for Menendez to resign
That's from Sep. 26, 2023.
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And https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/sep/28/bob-menendez-cant-sway-fellow-dems-resignation-cal/
Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, who was the first Democrat to call for resignation, said it was time for an expulsion resolution to oust Mr. Menendez.
That's from Sep. 28, 2023.
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@George-K said in Menendez Indicted:
Still no call for expulsion from the Democrats in the Senate.
Does calling for Menendez to resign count?
Here are the Democrats who have called for Menendez to resign
That's from Sep. 26, 2023.
@Axtremus said in Menendez Indicted:
@George-K said in Menendez Indicted:
Still no call for expulsion from the Democrats in the Senate.
Does calling for Menendez to resign count?
No. A call for someone to resign is not the same as making a motion to expel.
Did Sen. Fetterman say that he will introduce a measure to expel Sen. Menendez, or just say "it's time?"
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Is it possible to expel someone if they do not want to resign?
(He should, but I am just wondering if they can force him out before he is found guilty)
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Is it possible to expel someone if they do not want to resign?
(He should, but I am just wondering if they can force him out before he is found guilty)
@taiwan_girl said in Menendez Indicted:
Is it possible to expel someone if they do not want to resign?
(He should, but I am just wondering if they can force him out before he is found guilty)
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_from_the_United_States_Congress
Presently, the disciplinary process begins when a resolution to expel or censure a Member is referred to the appropriate committee. In the House, this is the Committee on Ethics (House Ethics Committee); in the Senate, this is the Select Committee on Ethics (Senate Ethics Committee).
The committee may then ask other Representatives or Senators to come forward with complaints about the Member under consideration or may initiate an investigation into the Member's actions. Sometimes Members may refer a resolution calling for an investigation into a particular Member or matter that may lead to the recommendation of expulsion or censure.
Rule XI (Procedures of committees and unfinished business) of the Rules of the House of Representatives states that the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct can investigate allegations that a Member violated "any law, rule, regulation, or other standard of conduct applicable to the conduct of such Member ... in the performance of his duties or the discharge of his responsibilities". The Senate Select Committee on Ethics has the same jurisdiction. The committee may then report back to their whole chamber as to its findings and recommendations for further actions.
When an investigation is launched by either committee, an investigatory subcommittee will be formed. Once the investigatory subcommittee has collected evidence, talked to witnesses, and held an adjudicatory hearing, it will vote on whether the Member is found to have committed the specific actions and then will vote on recommendations. If expulsion is the recommendation then the subcommittee's report will be referred to the full House of Representatives or Senate where Members may vote to accept, reject, or alter the report's recommendation. Voting to expel requires the concurrence of two-thirds of the members. This is set out in Article 1, Section 5, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution.
The last senator expelled was in 1862.
⅔ of the body has to vote to expel. That's a high hill to climb. I imagine all the GOP would vote for expulsion - that's 49. Gotta find another 15 (Fetterman's on board) Democrat senators to agree.
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I would think that Rep Santos would be easier to expel.
(Actually, thinking about it, probably not. The Republics have too close a majority to risk losing a member)
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I would think that Rep Santos would be easier to expel.
(Actually, thinking about it, probably not. The Republics have too close a majority to risk losing a member)
@taiwan_girl said in Menendez Indicted:
I would think that Rep Santos would be easier to expel.
Perhaps, but Menendez alleged crimes seem more serious.
(Actually, thinking about it, probably not. The Republics have too close a majority to risk losing a member)
Yeah. If the GOP had a bigger majority, they might make that move. But they don't, and they didn't, because politics.
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At least four gold bars tied to the FBI search of Sen. Robert Menendez’s home had been directly linked to a New Jersey businessman now accused of bribing the state's senior senator, records show
The businessman, Fred Daibes, reported to police he was the victim of an armed robbery in 2013, and he asked police recover the 22 gold bars stolen from him
A decade later, four of those gold bars with unique serial numbers had come into the possession of Sen. Menendez and his wife, Nadine
