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The beginning of the end for Joe

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  • kluursK Offline
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    kluurs
    wrote on last edited by kluurs
    #14

    The only Democratic candidate over the past few years who could generate the kind of enthusiasm as DJT was Bernie. It's fun to imagine an 83 year Bernie running against a youthful 78 year old DJT.

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      In 2016 the name on the ballot for the Democrat Nominee could have been Not Trump, D and the results would have been nearly identical.

      The Brad

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @LuFins-Dad said in The beginning of the end for Joe:

        Joe Biden will be the nominee until the Convention. Then he will announce his retirement at the end of the term and the delegates will need to vote on a replacement. As the delegates at the Convention will be Joe’s, they will vote for his recommendation. Since the Convention is at the end of August, this gives the RNC only 2 months to campaign against the successor.

        You know, that's actually pretty smart.

        taiwan_girlT Offline
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        @Jolly said in The beginning of the end for Joe:

        @LuFins-Dad said in The beginning of the end for Joe:

        Joe Biden will be the nominee until the Convention. Then he will announce his retirement at the end of the term and the delegates will need to vote on a replacement. As the delegates at the Convention will be Joe’s, they will vote for his recommendation. Since the Convention is at the end of August, this gives the RNC only 2 months to campaign against the successor.

        You know, that's actually pretty smart.

        Yup. I agree. I could see that happening.

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        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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          #17

          A good opinion piece.

          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/13/biden-is-becoming-dangerous-remove-him-before-its-too-late/

          QUOTE
          Biden’s job is that of CEO of the most powerful country in the world, the leader of the free world, not the chairman emeritus: it is a complex and responsible managerial and executive role, and not just because his hands are hovering over the nuclear button. We all have an interest in the role being exercised by a competent president.

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          • MikM Offline
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            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • CopperC Offline
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              #19

              MSNBC!
              MSNBC!

              ‘Every’ Democrat agrees Biden is ‘too old to run’ for re-election: MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough

              https://nypost.com/2023/09/13/joe-scarborough-say-every-democrat-says-biden-is-too-old-to-run/

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @LuFins-Dad said in The beginning of the end for Joe:

                Joe Biden will be the nominee until the Convention. Then he will announce his retirement at the end of the term and the delegates will need to vote on a replacement. As the delegates at the Convention will be Joe’s, they will vote for his recommendation. Since the Convention is at the end of August, this gives the RNC only 2 months to campaign against the successor.

                You know, that's actually pretty smart.

                jon-nycJ Offline
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                #20

                @Jolly said in The beginning of the end for Joe:

                @LuFins-Dad said in The beginning of the end for Joe:

                Joe Biden will be the nominee until the Convention. Then he will announce his retirement at the end of the term and the delegates will need to vote on a replacement. As the delegates at the Convention will be Joe’s, they will vote for his recommendation. Since the Convention is at the end of August, this gives the RNC only 2 months to campaign against the successor.

                You know, that's actually pretty smart.

                Too smart. I wish they'd do it, but they won't.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  #21

                  https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4294394-axelrod-suggests-biden-drop-out-of-2024-presidential-race/

                  Former President Obama’s senior adviser David Axelrod on Sunday suggested President Biden drop out of the 2024 presidential race in the wake of a new poll showing the incumbent trailing former President Trump.

                  “Only @JoeBiden can make this decision,” he continued. “If he continues to run, he will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. What he needs to decide is whether that is wise; whether it’s in HIS best interest or the country’s?”

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                    #22

                    He’s losing his only argument for running again.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      #23

                      Well put. Dropping out would be better for the dems but it’s hard for a president to give up the feeling of power.

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                        #24

                        Although we need to see how these polls endure. He lost 11 pts among Dems in the last month due to strong support for Israel. This war won’t be monopolizing the news 6 months from now or even 3, most likely.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          #25

                          I'm shocked that his support would drag him down. I would have thought his handling of it would be a plus. It has been with me. What does this tell us about the party?

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #26

                            I would have thought it would help him with independents but hurt him with campus lefty types.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              #27

                              I suppose it depends who you ask.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Run Joe! Run!

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  I'm not sure he's as weak as you might think. We've never had an election between a guy so feeble and a guy so hated. Conventional wisdom is of little use here.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #30

                                    At the end of the day, it's all about the judges.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      #31

                                      Interesting. Take away the negative brand equity of Biden and Trump is demolished a second time.

                                      This is the same polling outfit that showed Trump ahead of Biden in many swing states.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #32

                                        And if a 🐸 had wings ..

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Interesting. Take away the negative brand equity of Biden and Trump is demolished a second time.

                                          This is the same polling outfit that showed Trump ahead of Biden in many swing states.

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          @jon-nyc said in The beginning of the end for Joe:

                                          Interesting. Take away the negative brand equity of Biden and Trump is demolished a second time.

                                          This is the same polling outfit that showed Trump ahead of Biden in many swing states.

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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