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Central Planning Light Bulbs

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    Eat ze bugs!

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/01/biden-administrations-ban-incandescent-light-bulbs-hits-americans-today/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
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      #2

      That boy is just trying his best to placate young voters because he tanked on student debt.

      Not sure whether the DOE has the authority to do this.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #3

        I don't know about you old-timers, but I haven't bought a filament light bulb in years.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          I don't know about you old-timers, but I haven't bought a filament light bulb in years.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #4

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Central Planning Light Bulbs:

          I don't know about you old-timers, but I haven't bought a filament light bulb in years.

          Nor have I. I have a stash of about 8 60-watt floods in a closet. Sadly, the ones in the kitchen refuse to burn out.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            #5

            I have a stash of real floods too.

            Didn't someone else already try this? Mr. Clinton maybe.

            Somehow it got turned around, I can't remember why, a jurisdiction problem maybe, or it was just a stupid idea or at the time there weren't enough led bulbs in the world.

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              89th
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              #6

              Can we forget politics for a second?

              LED bulbs last WAY longer and are much CHEAPER to use. No brainer. Who cares about the politics? If you spend a few more bucks per bulb you'll more than save that in electricity costs each month and year.

              Like the DOC said, I almost only buy LED bulbs these days.

              That being said, the inability to buy incandescent (presuming that is true, I haven't checked) is a bit sad. If not from a historical perspective, but from a freedom/consumer perspective.

              Although last winter I tried using incandescent christmas lights outdoors and they were so damn fragile that I used LED versions. Will never go back.

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              • JonJ Offline
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                Jon
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                #7

                Right? I don’t miss having 90W heaters installed inside each of my 10W light bulbs.

                Still, I don’t support making them disappear by fiat.

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                • brendaB Offline
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                  #8

                  Old house like ours has fixtures that look so much better with the right incandescent bulbs. We use some LED bulbs if they are not really visible, but many others need the old style bulbs for appearance that fits the house.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #9

                    Sometimes you need the warmth of an incandescent. Well shed in the winter, etc.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #10

                      I don't think banning them is really a good idea. I'd much rather Congress focused on something important, such as adopting the metric system or reinstating the monarchy and/or Windows 98. As Joe says, God save the Queen!

                      I was only joking

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
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                        #11

                        I think most all of us use LEDs. The market will take care of that. This edict is just political window dressing.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • markM Offline
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                          Happy to see they excluded some incandescent bulbs. Appliance bulbs for one. We had what is probably a 50 year old oven bulb go out the other day. An LED would just melt in an oven.

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                          • CopperC Offline
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                            #13

                            As we all know, China bought Mr. Biden, and he didn't come cheap.

                            94% of all LED lamp imports to the United States are manufactured in China

                            2 + 2 =

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              As we all know, China bought Mr. Biden, and he didn't come cheap.

                              94% of all LED lamp imports to the United States are manufactured in China

                              2 + 2 =

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @Copper said in Central Planning Light Bulbs:

                              As we all know, China bought Mr. Biden, and he didn't come cheap.

                              94% of all LED lamp imports to the United States are manufactured in China

                              2 + 2 =

                              Are the filament bulbs made in America?

                              I was only joking

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                              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                Incandescent light bulbs are now largely banned, so one fan spent a paycheck stockpiling 3,500 bulbs he said should last 75 years

                                https://dnyuz.com/2023/09/10/incandescent-light-bulbs-are-now-largely-banned-so-one-fan-spent-a-paycheck-stockpiling-3500-bulbs-he-said-should-last-75-years/

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  Incandescent light bulbs are now largely banned, so one fan spent a paycheck stockpiling 3,500 bulbs he said should last 75 years

                                  https://dnyuz.com/2023/09/10/incandescent-light-bulbs-are-now-largely-banned-so-one-fan-spent-a-paycheck-stockpiling-3500-bulbs-he-said-should-last-75-years/

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @taiwan_girl I have about a dozen 65 watt incandescent flood lights in a closet.

                                  I keep waiting for the installed ones to burn out, but they are stubborn, and refuse to do so.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                                    Yeah, I also have a small stash of incandescent bulbs (including a three-way bulb for which I have never seen an LED equivalent); I bought them well over a decade ago. I only use them in very few spaces where I want to be able to dim the light down to a very faint glow. When it comes to dimming, incandescent can still dim much more than LED can.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      Yeah, I also have a small stash of incandescent bulbs (including a three-way bulb for which I have never seen an LED equivalent); I bought them well over a decade ago. I only use them in very few spaces where I want to be able to dim the light down to a very faint glow. When it comes to dimming, incandescent can still dim much more than LED can.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @Axtremus said in Central Planning Light Bulbs:

                                      incandescent can still dim much more than LED can.

                                      I have some dimming LED bulbs and the problem I have is that the amperage(?) (maybe something other than amperage) going through the circuit causes the LED to "flicker" at low dim light.

                                      Has anybody else experienced this?

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @Axtremus said in Central Planning Light Bulbs:

                                        incandescent can still dim much more than LED can.

                                        I have some dimming LED bulbs and the problem I have is that the amperage(?) (maybe something other than amperage) going through the circuit causes the LED to "flicker" at low dim light.

                                        Has anybody else experienced this?

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                                        @taiwan_girl said in Central Planning Light Bulbs:

                                        I have some dimming LED bulbs and the problem I have is that the amperage(?) (maybe something other than amperage) going through the circuit causes the LED to "flicker" at low dim light.

                                        Yes, that’s a fairly common problem with LED lights when it comes to dimming.

                                        The reason is somewhat complex, but if you’re interested, here is some basics about LED dimming: https://www.nvcuk.com/technical-support/view/what-is-dimming-11

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Central Planning Light Bulbs:

                                          I have some dimming LED bulbs and the problem I have is that the amperage(?) (maybe something other than amperage) going through the circuit causes the LED to "flicker" at low dim light.

                                          Yes, that’s a fairly common problem with LED lights when it comes to dimming.

                                          The reason is somewhat complex, but if you’re interested, here is some basics about LED dimming: https://www.nvcuk.com/technical-support/view/what-is-dimming-11

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          @Axtremus Thanks. Interesting article (the parts that I could understand 555), but it appears that there is not a easy solution to the problem for me.

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